Re: The $100bn Facebook question: Will capitalism survive 'value abundance'?

2012-03-05 Thread Brian Holmes
On 03/03/2012 08:22 PM, Jonathan Marshall wrote: Let me put it this way, if you will allow. People using facebook, or any other source, engage in labour. The question here is do they get the full return on that labour? The answer is, I believe, 'no'. Do they get anything from that labour, yes o

Re: Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-05 Thread Newmedia
Keith: Thanks for your thoughtful and generous reply. My fascination with the Germans is certainly driven in part by my inability to read the language (plus some potential ancestral linkage) and, alas, my French isn't proficient enough to read Dumont in the original but I'll gladly look t

Re: Political-Economy and Desire

2012-03-05 Thread Keith Hart
Mark, There are two types of error: telling someone something they know already and not telling them something they don't know. I would rather commit the first type of error, but most of the people I know commit the second. So here goes. Louis Dumont is best known for his work on India. He wrote

Re: The $100bn Facebook question: Will capitalism survive 'value abundance'?

2012-03-05 Thread lorenzo tripodi
Dear all, thanks for the stimulating discussion. Let me add some reflection from the point of view of an urbanist which considers media and ICT as undistinguished and integral part of the urban field. In my idea, to a marxist reading of Facebook as a place of labour exploitation, it would be r

Re: The $100bn Facebook question: Will capitalism survive 'value abundance'?

2012-03-05 Thread Felix Stalder
. On 03/04/2012 03:22 AM, Jonathan Marshall wrote: People using facebook, or any other source, engage in labour. The question here is do they get the full return on that labour? I don't think it makes sense to pose the question like this, for the reasons that Michael's text, which started thi

The ARPANET Dialogues Vol. IV

2012-03-05 Thread Bassam el Baroni
  The ARPANET Dialogues Vol. IV ARPANET Test April 1976 with Jim Henson, Ayn Rand, Sidney Nolan & Yoko Ono Published on 4 March 2012. Presented as a contribution to Roundtable Issue 1, a journal for the 9th Gwangju Biennale. Featuring guest contributor Natalya Pinchuk, an artist based

Re: Mute article on Bitcoin

2012-03-05 Thread Dmytri Kleiner
On 04.03.2012 16:50, Jaromil wrote: hi Josie, The Wine and Cheese Appreciation Society and Scott Len take the currency seriously but ask, how exactly does it differ from 'real' money? A rather quick conclusion, comprehensible since it takes some knowledge of cryptography to understand tha