US facial recognition (WRT "Nettime is in bad shape")

2019-07-07 Thread Christopher Leslie
Dear Friends, A news report from the Washington Post gave me pause today (quotes below). Pundits and scholars are quick to evoke China’s effort to automate surveillance, often mixing science fiction with rumors, as some sort of abyss at the end of a slippery slope we must avoid for the moral

Re: nettime-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 11

2019-07-07 Thread Jody Berland
I'm in favour of broadening the discussion of networks to more readily include non-human elements such as animals, climate, water, energy, etc. That was implied already with reference to Anna Tsing's work and here and there. If that project interests you I invite you to read my new book, Virtual

Re: HCI

2019-07-07 Thread Emery Hemingway
On Sunday, July 7, 2019 2:08:12 PM CEST, John Preston wrote: ... The kinds of redevelopment I am talking about are ongoing, there is a whole legacy of people doing research in a similar thread, so now I ask why have we not yet realised such a project, or rather what is needed for further

Re: Nettime is in bad shape. Let's see if we can change it.

2019-07-07 Thread John Preston
I believe the fundamental issue goes beyond requiring just public ownership/operation of these technologies but also public understanding, and ties in with the HCI discussion in parallel thread "Has net-art lost political significance?". I am interested in build a new computer that is drastically

Re: Nettime is in bad shape. Let's see if we can change it.

2019-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
Platforms (Telegram, Facebook, Twitter, and so on) are not the answer; they are operated by illegitimate gatekeepers who have no place in the conversation or its management. Some of us would never use such a method to communicate, nor should we be expected to do so. Suggest that in an ideal