Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-05 Thread Morlock Elloi
The relevant repeating pattern is eliminating the local social network with its filtering and inertia, and substituting it with a faraway CCC, which can move at any speed it chooses. This is exactly what is going on today with Twitter, for example, which bypasses everything (except Twitter's p

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-05 Thread Morlock Elloi
This began when IBM started selling "personal computers" (PC XT, AT). They were pitched to the mainframe customers as a way of liberation from the evil data centers and their high priests, the operators. It was immensely successful, the playbook IBM sales used was nearly perfect. They sought to

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-05 Thread podinski
> > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Facebook?s ?toxic? global lobbying (Brian Holmes) > 2. Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what > (Bruce Sterling) > 3. Re: Cyberpunks who were

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-05 Thread Joseph Rabie
We look upon computing as ubiquitous and all-encompassing, which of course it is. But this was preceded by the mainframe, very big, very rare, with the authority of science and its priesthood of programmers. Each unit confined to a building all of its own. More representative of bureaucratic in

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-04 Thread Morlock Elloi
Not to sound skeptical, but is there another way of viewing it? The new Pretorian Guard, a guild tending the computing machinery for the pedestrian cause of concentrating control tools of the capital, needed its mythology, and cyberpunk was born. Historically speaking, there is no evidence of

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-04 Thread Keith Hart
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:52 PM Bruce Sterling wrote: > > The worst we suffer is guys on nettime imagining that we disappeared > culturally, just because we’re old. > > *Because we ARE old. It’s 2019 and us cyberpunks are white-haired people > in our sixties and seventies. > > *Or read some CHI

Re: Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-04 Thread Jon Lebkowsky
I've been here for a long time, too, and oddly silent because my attention span fell to ~0, infected by Internet worms. FringeWare is less than a shadow of a memory for those who were ever aware of it, and the new kids on the blockchain don't know it existed. boing boing is no longer the most popul

Cyberpunks who were right about everything, but so what

2019-03-04 Thread Bruce Sterling
Keith Hart Re: Facebook’s “toxic” global lobbying (…) Since 1914-18, there has only been one political question. Which form will rule the world. By analogy, do you think the Roman empire would allow a civil war in Italy? Americans are so parochial. It suits their rulers for them to be so.