Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-13 Thread Dan S. Wang
Dear Emaline and Alice, Thank you for generous replies. Nobody's ever pinned down what may or many not be attributed to consciousness unencumbered by four or five decades of lived experience and memory, but I detect something vaguely optimistic in both your responses, an optimism that I sometimes

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-10 Thread Emaline Friedman
Dan, Even before your solicitation, I was prepared to be the American 20-something (thanks, also, for your post, Alice): What an interesting experience it's been here on Nettime for the last few years as I've been writing a critical-psychological dissertation about "Internet Addiction" (a

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-10 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Hi Iain, You're right about the "deep intergenerational transmission of a culture of resistance." About the anecdote, just some context: the journalist was asking this question in reminding Macron's "Make the planet great again" vs "Make the USA great again," so the interviewed person was

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-09 Thread Iain Boal
Frédéric: You say "To be a rightist is the opposite way: me first; then, maybe, the world (I heard on France Info (French radio) someone in Texas saying: First, the USA, then the planet; "it's like parents in a plane: first;, they put on the oxygen mask; then, they can take care of children"-

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-09 Thread Alice Yang
I usually and prefer to lurk but since we’re talking about Generation Queer, I want to weigh in as a queer 26 year old :) Here’s the longest thing I’ve ever written on nettime. I thought Dan’s words about morality and politics were great, as well as Angela’s analysis of how Protestantism

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-09 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Hi Dan, hi Angela, Thanks for your posts. Just an idea about morals and politics: - When the most important thing is me, myself, my identity, my job, my work, my resentment, my religion, etc., we are in the realm of morals and revenges and trials (and lawyers and money and punishments) reign; -

Re: Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-09 Thread Angela Mitropoulos
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 11:30, Dan S. Wang wrote: > The reduction of politics to a question of good and bad people deeply > afflicts radical political subcultures in the US, Dan, I find it difficult to reconcile your historiography of US activism and politics with what I know about both US

Fascist "trolls" and back on track

2018-11-08 Thread Dan S. Wang
Thank you, Angela. Until Ryan singled out the tasteless and revealing remark about Charlottesville, it hadn¹t registered for me. Why not? Because in Bard¹s response addressed to me, his first line about my post being "so very very brilliant" put me off to the extent that I didn't even read the