Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

> > ... > > Hi, > > thanks guys for your opinions on blockchais, But neither pointing to > authority in the matter (apprently we are all experts all the time) nor > polemicizing against a non-mature technology will help me in > understanding the phenomena. let's get back to the subject in ten

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

I regret to be this anal - nettime is not (that) technical forum, but in this case blockchain has has nothing to do with securing IoT communications. At best, blockchain can provide authentication (ie. public key tied to identity), with properly expensive PoW, which is not the case here.

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

> > > That article is technical nonsense. 'Blockchain' that has PoW consisting > of 1.6 second of handset CPU is trivial to fake. And where is the > consensus? Car does the same? Or is car running 500KW GPU cluster doing > hash verified by ... who? Cheap PoW ("Proof of Work") is contradiction > in

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 2 Mar 2018, at 15:17, Morlock Elloi wrote: > We need blockchain powered nettime! BLOCKTIME! block.critique  # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 03/03/2018 09:20 AM, Patrice Riemens wrote: And then, cryptocurrencies don't make very much economic sense either. Their only merit is have bootstrapped rethinking money and currencies - even though not necessarily in the 'right' direction. Talking about monetary alternatives, I find

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 02.03.2018 22:27, Carsten Agger wrote: > > > On 03/02/2018 09:17 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: >> That article is technical nonsense. 'Blockchain' that has PoW >> consisting of 1.6 second of handset CPU is trivial to fake. And where >> is the consensus? Car does the same? Or is car running 500KW

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Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 2018-03-02 22:27, Carsten Agger wrote: On 03/02/2018 09:17 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: That article is technical nonsense. 'Blockchain' that has PoW consisting of 1.6 second of handset CPU is trivial to fake. And where is the consensus? Car does the same? Or is car running 500KW GPU cluster

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Interesting point of view! Non-blockchain technologies are badder (because they are far more efficient and actually work) for implementing dystopia, so blockchain's dismal inappropriateness and inefficiency are counter-measures against the dystopia. It's a poison pill. Finally I get it.

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 03/02/2018 09:17 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: That article is technical nonsense. 'Blockchain' that has PoW consisting of 1.6 second of handset CPU is trivial to fake. And where is the consensus? Car does the same? Or is car running 500KW GPU cluster doing hash verified by ... who? Cheap PoW

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

That article is technical nonsense. 'Blockchain' that has PoW consisting of 1.6 second of handset CPU is trivial to fake. And where is the consensus? Car does the same? Or is car running 500KW GPU cluster doing hash verified by ... who? Cheap PoW ("Proof of Work") is contradiction in terms.

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Hi, On 01.03.2018 04:32, Morlock Elloi wrote: > I have hard time understanding how is blockchain special, unique, and > apart from other technologies, relative to dystopian outlook in the > article. > Yeah, it is rather dystopian. There is this logical expansion for commodified societies

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

I have hard time understanding how is blockchain special, unique, and apart from other technologies, relative to dystopian outlook in the article. The only difference between blockchain and prior technologies (public cryptography, including signatures and certificates, databases, etc.) is the

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Alice Weidel is not listed on the site of the event. Nevertheless, she was a trader or broker for some hedge fund or so, afair. Her 'expertise' lies in finance, therefore the guardian article's claim is not totally out of the blue. Since I am located in Hamburg, I will follow the news on the

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

After witnessing assorted Bitcoin, blockchain, Ethereum and related meetings, lectures, conferences and such, audiences ranging from people from the street to Ivy League PhDs: - Most informal meetings have pure religious feeling; people smile and listen. The content is irrelevant. Idiocy

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

I did a linguistic experiment - replaced word 'Blockchain' with 'mayonnaise' throughout the article, and the amount of sense remained constant (that particular word was sense-neutral.) It's very hard to find actual use for blockchain. This thought experiment provides some help: imagine a

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Yes, I completely agree with Carsten. And as I cannot repeat often enough that I am a mere 'text filterer', which is the primary purpose of nettime (see at bottom) I will repeat again that I do not necessarily agree with other people's text I post, but do so only because I find them

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

On 23-02-2018 13:11, Patrice Riemens wrote: Original to: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/23/blockchain-reshape-world-far-right-ahead-crypto-technology Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead Crypto technology is coming to a

Re: Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Unfortunately Alice Weidel is not on the list of speakers on the website of this conference, as the text claims... -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit 1&1 Mail gesendet.Am 23/02/2018, 13:11, Patrice Riemens schrieb: Some connex pbs have caused my post

Josh Hall: Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far right is one step ahead (Guardian)

Some connex pbs have caused my post to be send unedited. Here's the correct version (fingers X-ed) --- Original to: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/23/blockchain-reshape-world-far-right-ahead-crypto-technology Blockchain could reshape our world – and the far