Re: nettime Digital Politics -- Digital Economics

2013-05-15 Thread Dan S. Wang
Mark, Flick: On the question of whether and how is ³democracy² relevant to an understanding of Chinese politics, I lean towards Mark¹s views. To add to them, Flick¹s characterization of the CCP as a ³supreme² ruler, I must say, is far from the reality (and as for its ³legitimacy,² at the level

Re: nettime Digital Politics -- Digital Economics

2013-05-13 Thread Newmedia
Flick: I hate to sound like a cold warrior myself . . . Thanks for this illuminating RANT -- yes, you *do* seem to be trapped in the COLD WAR (so, can I help you to escape) . . . ?? g My first trip to China was in 1997 and I have gone back many times since. No minders and no limit on

Re: nettime Digital Politics -- Digital Economics

2013-05-13 Thread Flick Harrison
Mark! I am digging this discussion. Although you imply that I don't know enough to have an intelligent conversation, I know you just got that line from Eric Li at Party HQ. ;-P I don't think one needs a PhD in eastern philosophy to discuss Tiananmen Square, or the banning of Facebook. In

Re: nettime Digital Politics -- Digital Economics

2013-05-11 Thread Flick Harrison
Democracy originated in the cold war!? Hard to take a thesis about democracy seriously that starts the story 2500 years late. Castro had it right when he said Greek democracy was a lie: only Citizens had rights while slaves were traded like chattel. No need to revise the Ancients out of your