Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Prem Chandavarkar
About eight and a half months ago I quit Facebook and all social media. My reasons are given here: https://medium.com/@premckar/a-farewell-to-social-media-33db26074498 Having said that, I echo the sentiments expressed by

Re: The Watershed in Your Head

2019-11-03 Thread Brian Holmes
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:51 AM John Hopkins wrote: > My formal work currently includes being the archivist for, among many other > items, the maps of now-abandoned coal and metal mines in the state of > Colorado. > The state is literally riddled with holes -- somewhere around 25,000 > abandoned

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread José María Mateos
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 11:29:27PM +0100, olivier auber wrote: I'm still on FB to increase #MyFacebookInvoice Olivier Auber BTW, I wonder why this campaign got quite a big success in european media but not a word in US ones...

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread olivier auber
I'm still on FB to increase #MyFacebookInvoice Olivier Auber BTW, I wonder why this campaign got quite a big success in european media but not a word in US ones... http://perspective-numerique.net/PDF/MyFacebookInvoice-Press_Release-20180129.pdf On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Alan Sondheim

Re: Facebook / MZ, "trust," and "mythic forces"

2019-11-03 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Thanks Geoffrey, indeed, illuminating! Yet I also try to get the other part of it, i.e. the "trust"/belief aspect that the "Dumb fucks" description cannot grasp at all. I think I understand who MZ is, no doubt, and that Libra is an antiphrasis. I also know that MZ doesn't know where his power

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
The loss is more important to me; the community functions as best an online community can. I'm connected with all sorts of other networks as well such as Furtherfield, ELO, etc. What I find worse and more problematic is the university system including publications - I can't afford most

Re: facebook (Frederic Neyrat)

2019-11-03 Thread Renée Lynn Reizman
email, but its occasion. > > Thanks in advance for your light on this matter, > > Frederic Neyrat > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mx.kein.org/pipermail/nettime-l/attachments/20191103/ecefa2e0/attachm

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
P.S. I should have included a link to an article I co-authored about Facebook Libra: https://ssrn.com/abstract=3441707 Abstract: The announcement by Facebook that Libra will "deliver on the promise of 'the internet of money'" has drawn the attention of the financial world. Regulators,

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
This pithy exchange attributed to Mark Zuckerberg [1,2] might illuminate the issue: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask. Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Frederic Neyrat
thanks! Sorry, i don't' get it: social media is too vast to accurately assess. but to assess - what? my best, fn On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:22 PM { brad brace } wrote: > > [my posts to nettime don't get circulated unless there's a > note like this one] > > To be brief: I'd say social media

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Thanks Alan! But I've a question, I try to formulate it... Let's say: 1/ FB enables to create a "community," that's good for sure; 2/ but in the same time, it destroys the condition of the possibility of community/togetherness/Gemeinwesen/être-ensemble, etc. For instance, in making possible the

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
I'm on it because there are a number of new media artists/writers/etc. including myself who form somewhat of a community - it's a way to distribute work, especially if one's not in academia or media industry. It's brutally flawed but also useful and it gives more scope to textual work than

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Thanks for your answer! My best, FN On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:49 AM José María Mateos wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 10:28:01AM -0600, Frederic Neyrat wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'd like to know if some people on this list - be they activists, > >environmentalists, artists, thinkers, contributors

Re: Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread José María Mateos
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 10:28:01AM -0600, Frederic Neyrat wrote: Hi, I'd like to know if some people on this list - be they activists, environmentalists, artists, thinkers, contributors - are (still) on Facebook and if yes, why, being given the extreme noxiousness of this "social" (?) network.

Facebook

2019-11-03 Thread Frederic Neyrat
Hi, I'd like to know if some people on this list - be they activists, environmentalists, artists, thinkers, contributors - are (still) on Facebook and if yes, why, being given the extreme noxiousness of this "social" (?) network. This article