Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption (Mez Breeze & Andr�)

2017-04-23 Thread nettime's frog called digest
- Forwarded message from Mez Breeze <netwur...@gmail.com> - From: Mez Breeze <netwur...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 05:30:25 +1000 To: nettime-l <nettim...@kein.org> "The search for sod

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-23 Thread Prem Chandavarkar
> On 21-Apr-2017, at 8:50 PM, Brian Holmes wrote: > > The only way to regain any kind of political autonomy - by which I mean, > the capacity to relate deliberately to the present - is to form groups > that feel, think, discuss and act. The group needs dense ties

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-21 Thread Morlock Elloi
Let's agree that "Anonymous" means "don't know who or how many of them", so for the purpose of this discussion: replace "Anonymous" with "people with blood type A, Rh+", and see if the statement still makes sense. On 4/20/17, 14:39, Felix Stalder wrote: In the case of Anonymous, it seems to

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-21 Thread Brian Holmes
On 04/21/2017 04:44 AM, David Garcia wrote: > The question B) More interesting is the second question: Is there something > inherently alt-right in Anonymous? Is also tackled in some depth by > Coleman et al but conclude that the relationshp between alt-right > “trolling” to 4Chan and

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-21 Thread David Garcia
Hi, there is a very informative essay published a month ago on Motherboard by Whitney Phillips, Jessica Beyer and Gabriella Coleman with the rather long title Trolling Scholars debunk the Idea that Alt.right’s Shitposters have Magic Powers. These three ethnographic researchers have been

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-21 Thread Felix Stalder
I'm not sure I get where this thread is going, or better, where it is coming from. There are, in my view, two different questions here. A) has the far-right meme culture played a significant role in Trump winning the election? The short answer is clearly no. We're in the midsts of a deep systemic

Re: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that

2017-04-20 Thread Florian Cramer
Hello Gabriella, > "the false assumption that alt-right 'trolling' is equally >interchangeable with 4chan and Anonymous, an assumption that posits >static, ahistorical framings of both. Making this claim, eith >explicitly or implicitly, obscures the one basic, unifying fact of >

Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that alt-right

2017-04-10 Thread biella
have an * in front of them. Original Message Subject: Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that alt-right 'trolling' Date: 2017-03-22 23:18 From: Florian Cramer <flrnc...@gmail.com> To: nettim...@kein.org > This collectively authored piece by Whitney Phillips,

Phillips/Beyer/Coleman: "false assumption that alt-right 'trolling'

2017-03-25 Thread Florian Cramer
This collectively authored piece by Whitney Phillips, Jessica Beyer and Gabriella Coleman is worth reading and, perhaps, debating: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/trolling-scholars-debunk-the-idea-that-the-alt-rights-trolls-have-magic-powers The authors make important