> On Jun 14, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Iain Boal wrote:
>
> > On 14 Jun 2020, at 02:40, sebast...@rolux.org wrote:
> >
> > "... i'm not a historian, but i'm certain
> > that when columbus set foot in the americas, he came with the best
> > intentions, and even the spanish probably didn't arrive with
On 14 Jun 2020, at 02:40, sebast...@rolux.org wrote:
"... i'm not a historian, but i'm certain
that when columbus set foot in the americas, he came with the best
intentions, and even the spanish probably didn't arrive with the
primary motive to just kill everyone. but they did."
If it is the
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Max Herman wrote:
> Neither political party in the US is really denying climate change or racial
> inequality much these days. There is bipartisan support for green
> infrastructure initiatives to help reboot the economy, a green deal if not a
> new one, and
Hi Felix,
This morning I was thinking about the idea of turning points so to speak, and
whether the course of current events may be "breaking" one way or a different
way.
Perhaps the courses of events are a bit like flowing water, where there can be
turbulence because of an obstacle that
... waking up is a longer term process;
and there is (always) the long tail of several systemic watch dogs:
Police unions dig in as calls for reform grow
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/police-union-reform-protests/index.html
though strategically I (chose to) share your optimistic
There is a lot there on re. what exactly is breaking? but to be brief on
this from Molly:
Still even the poorest in socialist Europe don?t have to steal to go
to a doctor...
well, there is a large 'ghost' population here who work but who have
no such rights per se (in some regions 90
Felix – I know Castells casts a long shadow in your thought, but not
so much in mine. It isn't an accident that systemic thinkers emerged in
some cultures, like Castells in Spain and the Annalistes in France, but
not so much in others. US intellectualism isn't known for its rigorously
concerning filming the police, I just read:
"Why filming police violence has done nothing to stop it"
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/03/1002587/sousveillance-george-floyd-police-body-cams/
excerpts:
A large study in 2017 by the Washington, DC, mayor’s office assigned more
than a
Dear Felix,
With this refreshed invitation, I’ll take a stab at keeping the conversation
going.
As for breaks, ruptures, and discontinuities, I wonder about Nixon’s Silent
Majority, about whether it exists anymore. When Trump finally emerged from his
bunker, his retreat from White House
On 3/06/20 5:48 am, tbyfield wrote:
> everything as *broken* is a world in the past tense; all you can do is
> *rebuild* — another word that tracks "is broken" with almost hilarious
> precision...
>
>
>
This is fascinating response. It’s getting harder here to be a journalist
or to take pictures, but we still believe we can. Sometimes I think the
sheer number of images, for instance, just yesterday on Twitter, of NYPD
beating bicyclists and medical workers out after curfew - because the order
was
> that
> are broken (and hence in need of fixing)
Thank you
but about historical discontinuities, about possible breaks with
> established patterns that open up space for new dynamics, for the better or
> worse.
We are feeling the answer to this with every protest, and all the looting
and
As an observer of the last 45 years in U.S. and local politics (NYC)
I'd propose that "what's breaking" is the denial by the average white
privileged person that the status quo is fair, equitable, and just for
all citizens not just them.
McCorkle Terence Diamond
www.terencediamond.com
I watched the Cornell West interview at DemocracyNow
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/1/cornel_west_us_moment_of_reckoning
where he says the failed social experiment that is America is breaking
apart.
But more troubled than ever by the Americanising of this or, using Trump
as a prop, when
On 02.06.20 19:48, tbyfield wrote:
> These kinds of language games aren't as silly as they might seem at
> first glance, because pop phrases like that hint — as if through a glass
> or scanner darkly — diffuse assumptions about where we see ourselves
> historically. A world where people are
to have now taken an even
darker turn, compounding all the simmering structural violence into
something, well, into what? Approaching civil war? There are certainly
enough heavily-armed militias around who are clamoring for it. Is this
a breaking point, and if so, what exactly is breaking?
In asking
As an Austin resident, I'm sure your analysis is generally spot-on. However
I'm not clear how it explains why there was looting and burning here in
Austin. You didn't quite make the connection.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:39 AM EduAustin Alliance wrote:
>
> Sorry to be overly Marxist about it, but
Sorry to be overly Marxist about it, but here's my .02
--
The case in Minneapolis, the killing of George Floyd, was the result of a
bad apple - a story of one officer who took things too far, and the spoiled
bushel around him that enabled his crime.
That's not the case in Austin.
Steve, fabulous to hear back from you and your last one clarifies your
viewpoints. Obviously I'm sort of a "professional optimist" to the
extent that I try to engage with what's going on, learn from it, add
to it if I can, and if it's positive, try to help it go somewhere.
Here's a point which
From outside Chicago - think it may be time to skip town very soon
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Kurtz, Steven wrote:
>
> Brian, I have long admired your optimism and fighting spirit, but I just
> find it difficult to think that structural change is coming soon.
Brian, I have long admired your optimism and fighting spirit, but I just find
it difficult to think that structural change is coming soon. Regarding the
George Floyd case, we haven't even been able to get the accessories to murder
charged and the murderer is miles from conviction. Given the
And I know this is kind of lame, but... what if the breaking we're seeing is
> the first rearticulation of what is going to evolve into a broad, radical,
> international movement, one whose scope, diversity and determination will
> surpass even the revolts of the 1960s, committed to end the
Hi all,
Another day of vigorous, dignified protest but the looting and arson
have abated greatly (knock on wood).
There was a frightening incident with a semi-truck but there were only
minor injuries and great heroism was shown by many. The son of someone
I knew in grade school showed some
> On May 31, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Felix Stalder wrote:
>
> what exactly is breaking?
the short answer is, of course, the patience of people who keep getting
murdered. but this is not new. see london 2011, athens 2008, paris 2005.
WHITE SILENCE = CONSENT, but also WHITE
Folks,
thank you for these insightful reflections on the situation in the US;
I would like to come back to a point that Felix made in his initial
question:
I, like probably most nettimers, I have been observing the
fracturing of the US with increasing horror (knowing that Europe,
over the last
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On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:26 PM Kurtz, Steven wrote:
> Is anything breaking? No, nothing is breaking. The structure is
> safe in spite of this uprising being more multi-racial and class
> diverse than any I have ever seen. The two systems of law will stay
> in place. The law will be biased in
Hi Felix,
First, the big picture: Covid 19 has really messed things up. The US has 40
million unemployed people. Most folks are one degree away from someone who has
died, and there is no coherent strategy to slow and eventually stop the
pandemic. People are angry just as a base line. The US is
Felix
Thank you for writing at this time...can’t speak for Europe, but here it’s
revolution.
Canada sometimes seems to feel protests there follow protest here...do
these expectations of American influence preclude honest revolt against
racism which is present in other countries? Protest is what
ix Stalder
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 5:27 AM
To: nettime-l
Subject: what exactly is breaking?
I, like probably most nettimers, I have been observing the fracturing
of the US with increasing horror (knowing that Europe, over the last
70 years, has usualled followed the US, for good and bad). With th
Dear all,
Well, if you ask me, these are the early skirmishes of a new Civil War.
But actually I would say that the first Civil War never really ended and
certainly was not won by the North (as we all have been led to believe).
As to your question of what exactly is breaking
all the simmering structural violence into
something, well, into what? Approaching civil war? There are certainly
enough heavily-armed militias around who are clamoring for it. Is this
a breaking point, and if so, what exactly is breaking?
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