Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread Felix Stalder
On 24.03.19 14:28, Florian Cramer wrote: > Travis suggests that the 737 MAX fiasco resulted from a combination of > market economics/cost-optimization management and software  > being used to correct hardware design flaws. Yes. I think there are several factors involved that are in fact

Re: EU == USSR v2.0 ?

2019-03-28 Thread Geoffrey Goodell
How is the EU seizing control of the means of production? How is the EU delegitimising the ownership of private property by private citizens? When last I checked, it was still possible to establish for-profit businesses in the EU, and it was still possible for individual EU citizens to purchase

re: Some background to Christchurch

2019-03-28 Thread Luke Munn
Hey Douglas, Nice to hear from you. Really interesting perspective and I appreciate hearing about some of the 'on the ground' conditions in Wellington and Christchurch. I do agree that if the Springbok Tour of 1981 was one inflection point, then Christchurch in 2019 is another. How do we rebound

Re: EU == USSR v2.0 ?

2019-03-28 Thread Felix Stalder
On 27.03.19 22:05, Morlock Elloi wrote: > EU is really another attempt at communism. As I just wrote in another post, I think the US (and the UK and the EU) far facing a similar structural crisis as the USSR faced in the 1970s. Whether these countries turns out to be like the USSR, depends on

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread tbyfield
Felix, this is really interesting. Normally, I'm allergic to sweeping models of history that involve anything like 'technology' or 'technology,' because they mostly serve as playgrounds for wannabe TED talkers. Yours is different — maybe, in part, because you don't assume that capitalism and

Re: EU == USSR v2.0 ?

2019-03-28 Thread Morlock Elloi
Property is just an opinion, programmed into certain number of human brains. It's soft, and can be modified or erased. There is no brain area dedicated for private property (witness human societies without it.) Using this ephemeral phenomenon to understand underlying dynamics is unproductive.

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread Morlock Elloi
The basic issue is complexity crossing the threshold that humans cannot. So far, at least in the last few thousand years or so, mental abilities were one of key factors for individual 'success' (the other, likely more important one, was class and heritage.) We appreciate smart people as much

Re: EU == USSR v2.0 ?

2019-03-28 Thread Emery Hemingway
On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:05:16 PM CET, Morlock Elloi wrote: EU is really another attempt at communism. Go home grandpa, you're drunk. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread tbyfield
Not so fast, Felix, and not so clear. The origins of the phrase black box are "obscure," but the cybernetics crowd started using it from the mid-'50s. Their usage almost certainly drew on electronics research, where it had been used on a few occasions by a handful of people. However, that

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread Scot Mcphee
On 29 March 2019 at 09:07:31, Morlock Elloi (morlockel...@gmail.com) wrote: Seemingly totally unrelated: 1. flight recorders are brightly colored these days. The term "black box" originates in WW2, mostly because the first flight recorders, as all other "secret" electronics, was housed in metal

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread Felix Stalder
On 28.03.19 16:38, tbyfield wrote: > Yes and no. In theory, plane crashes happen out in the open compared to > other algorithmic catastrophes. In practice, the subsequent > investigations have a very 'public secret' quality: vast expanses are > cordoned off to be combed for every fragment,

Re: rage against the machine

2019-03-28 Thread Morlock Elloi
Seemingly totally unrelated: 1. flight recorders are brightly colored these days. The term "black box" originates in WW2, mostly because the first flight recorders, as all other "secret" electronics, was housed in metal boxes painted matte black. See