Re: rawhide report: 20050315 changes

2005-03-15 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > Had to make some cosmetic patches to get it to compile with gcc4 and I > am sure they are "wrong" but it compiled. I think I fixed these issues in upstream CVS this morning. ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http

NetworkManager for SuSE

2005-03-15 Thread Ahmed, Suhail
Hi,   I am trying to use NetworkManager for NLD9 (~SuSE9.1). I downloaded the sources from (http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager). It says that NM is distribution and desktop agnostic, but I could not get to compile the sources. When I ran “configure” it says that SuSE is not yet

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 11:54 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > The problem here is that app status also depends on different subsystem > > and external system status. In the other words, can I keep my TCP > > connections after the reboot. > > No, but in laptop+suspend case TCP connections are often

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 07:11 -0800, Tomislav Vujec wrote: > No. What I care about is app & subsystem state. There are still a lot of > applications that hold some kind of state, and don't require restart > even if X and gdm are restarted. Any background applications (P2P file > sharing, servers,

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 08:01 -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > If it is some huge bloated behemoth that may die due to bugs, Any software can crash due to bugs. The same is true for someone writing some hypothetical D-BUS replacement on top of netlink or whatever. But you might notice that the

Re: rawhide report: 20050315 changes

2005-03-15 Thread Brian Millett
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 07:57 -0500, Build System wrote: > NetworkManager-0.4-1.cvs20050315.3.0 > > * Tue Mar 15 2005 Ray Strode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.4-1.cvs20050315 > - Pull from latest CVS HEAD (hopefully works again) No it did not, but I thought, what the hec

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 08:01 -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: > If it is some huge bloated behemoth that may die due to bugs, or gets > killed by the OOM-killer, etc., then apps must reliably reconnect. If > it _can_ crash, it _will_ crash, quite often for certain workloads. Well, there's no way to

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Tomislav Vujec
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 09:28 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > If you run a desktop system, you should include X and gdm in there. > Neither are restarted automatically for security updates. I'm sure > there are others too that I'm not thinking of. > > I would argue that there is really no fundamental

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 17:14 -0800, Tomislav Vujec wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:22:26 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > The system bus will be restarted on reboot, however often that happens. > > For my personal system that's several times a day, as apm and acpi are > > broken on my laptop. > > I

NetworkManager for SuSE

2005-03-15 Thread Ahmed, Suhail
Hi,   I am trying to use NetworkManager for NLD9 (~SuSE9.1). I downloaded the sources from (http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager). It says that NM is distribution and desktop agnostic, but I could not get to compile the sources. When I ran “configure” it says that SuSE is not yet

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Bill Rugolsky Jr.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:21:54PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: > I *strongly* agree with Colin's post for the session dbus. It's crazy to > consider restarting that thing. Fair enough. > For the system dbus, I can imagine that the number of apps involved is > small enough that we might adapt

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Paul Ionescu
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:56:31 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: >> > There's so >> > many complicated issues in it, and it'll be a rarely-tested code path. >> > Right now it's a bug that the Fedora D-BUS and NetworkManager RPM >> > scripts restart after a package upgrade. >> > >> > You should just have