Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 01:37, Alastair Scott wrote: As someone whose Lexmark printer has just run out of ink (and it's only about £30 more to get a decent new printer than replace the cartridges) I've been thinking about this. Realistically, the choice for a cheap inkjet running under Linux

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 22:48, Todd Franklin wrote: You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if you want something cheap. What gets me is that alot of the reviewers bash them because they're slow. HELLO!?! Look at the price! Of course they're not going to have

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 02:26, Todd Slater wrote: the sooner they will take notice. Exactly. I checked out an offer from Gateway for a $399 computer. I went into a Gateway support chat session and asked if I could get a Gateway computer without an operating system. The support person said

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Todd Franklin
I agree completely Stephen Todd Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 22:48, Todd Franklin wrote: You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if you want something cheap. What gets me is that alot of the reviewers bash them because they're slow.

Re: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-13 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 04:35, Jim Dawson wrote: Personally I'm convinced that the world would be a much happier place if Steve Balmer were to start drinking decaffinated coffee... What about Balmer getting a job at either RedHat or Mandrake? (grin) -- Thu Nov 14 09:35:01 EST 2002

[newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. Anne On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 10:22 am, you wrote: Hi, In regards to your recent email, unfortunately none of our products will support

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. Anne Anne, look - for all intents and purposes, you're swimming upstream here.

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. Anne Anne, look - for all intents

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 23:45, Anne Wilson wrote: In the end, lost sales do count. Mine alone will do nothing, but the more often we can tell them that we have gone to a competitor who does better and the sooner they will take notice. This is true - and has held true for quite a number of

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Alastair Scott
Aaron wrote: my 2 cents the pro audio field is a good example of a group of people making drivers (ALSA) and apps that are beginning to make waves. I ended up giving my pro audio card away because the manufacturer wouldn't even help others make drivers. And this is something that only adds

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
Have to agree on the printer choices.  I bought into an article i read about 3 years ago on the Lexmark 3200 being a great value for a "high quality" ink jet printer.  So they were on sale at best buy and I bought 2 of them.  One for us and one for my roommate's daughter.  They are total

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Slater
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:44PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote: On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote: at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll

RE: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Franki
could it happen. rgd Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Todd Slater Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved! On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:44PM +, Anne

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Alastair Scott
Todd wrote: Have to agree on the printer choices. I bought into an article i read about 3 years ago on the Lexmark 3200 being a great value for a high quality ink jet printer. So they were on sale at best buy and I bought 2 of them. One for us and one for my roommate's daughter. They are

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Charlie
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 03:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers. I don't usually snap at people like this, but... Quote OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does. Anne snip In interactions between human beings and corporate non-entities it's

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or any other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has assumed Windows but hadn't made that assumption clear. Then they try to use the hardware outside Windows and it

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 8:30 am, you wrote: Here's a number 18,000,000. That's only the machines registered on The Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/ Here's how we can make a difference. Marketing people don't ignore numbers that big. And if all of us have all our machines registered on

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:56 am, Charlie wrote: snip To quote Heinlein: Don't let the bastards grind you down. (I'd use the Latin phrase he did, but my Latin sucks. : ) snip Charlie: IIRC, it goes, Illegitimae non carborundum. I doubt that it's real Latin; carborundum is GE's trade

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
You should look into getting one of those walmart Microtel machines if you want something cheap. What gets me is that alot of the reviewers bash them because they're slow. HELLO!?! Look at the price! Of course they're not going to have the speed and performance of a 2GHz + computer. But if you

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Derek Jennings
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or any other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has assumed Windows but hadn't made that assumption clear. Then

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 5:43 pm, you wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 4:28 pm, you wrote: The problem is when people switch from Windows to Linux (or MacOS, or any other OS) and bring with them all sorts of hardware which has assumed

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday November 12 2002 11:43 am, Derek Jennings wrote: To be fair to HP, they have seen the error of their ways, and no longer make win-printers. What is more they actively fund the development of opensource drivers for their products. When the ink runs out in my deskjet, the next

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Slater
PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Todd Slater Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved! On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:44PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 7:26 pm, you wrote: That's why I think it's important to let businesses know that they are losing sales due to their agreement with MS, that's the only language they understand: the almighty dollar. Perhaps we should also point them at the Linux counter, to see just

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Charlie
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:47 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:56 am, Charlie wrote: snip To quote Heinlein: Don't let the bastards grind you down. (I'd use the Latin phrase he did, but my Latin sucks. : ) snip Charlie: IIRC, it goes, Illegitimae non

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday November 12 2002 01:30 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 7:26 pm, you wrote: That's why I think it's important to let businesses know that they are losing sales due to their agreement with MS, that's the only language they understand: the almighty dollar. Perhaps we

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Todd Franklin
This might make all of you feel a little better. :-) Steve Ballmer at a corporate meeting. What a f***ing moron! http://www.stenstad.net/storage/ballmer_dance.mpg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Miark
Okay, two quotes to demonstrate this guy's modesty and intelligence: * GIVE IT UP FOR ME!! * Four words for you: I... LOVE... THIS... COMPANY. Unbelievable. Almost. Miark On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:53:37 + Todd Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might make all of you feel a little

Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 19:30, Todd Franklin wrote: Here's a number 18,000,000. That's only the machines registered on The Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/ Here's how we can make a difference. Marketing people don't ignore numbers that big. And if all of us have all our machines