Re: [SNN] Israel: 'Fix Kosovo first before telling us what to do'
Svaka cast Izraelu. Tako se brani svoja zemlja. From: serbiannewsnetw...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:serbiannewsnetw...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ANTIC.org-SNN Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:14 AM To: 'Balkan News'; balkanr...@yahoogroups.com; news@antic.org; n...@siem.net; postojb...@yahoogroups.com; se...@googlegroups.com; 'SerbianNewsNetwork'; sora...@yahoogroups.com; srbija_medjusljiv...@yahoogroups.com; 'YUGO' Cc: Global L; kosovoisser...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SNN] Israel: 'Fix Kosovo first before telling us what to do' Israel: 'Fix Kosovo first before telling us what to do' LEIGH PHILLIPS mailto:l...@euobs.com 11.10.2010 @ 09:18 CET Israel's foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman of the hard-right nationalist Yisrael Beiteinu party, has bluntly told the foreign ministers of Spain and France to fix problems in Europe before telling Israel what to do, according to reports in the local press. Solve your own problems in Europe before you come to us with complaints. Maybe then I will be open to accepting your suggestions, he told France's Bernard Kouchner and Spain's Miguel Angel Moratinos at a dinner on Sunday evening (10 October) in Jerusalem. Mr Lieberman suggested that Europe is sacrificing Israel the way it abandoned Czechoslovakia in 1939 (Photo: the half-blo od prince http://euobserver.com/onm/media/file3/4aeb278bdc11.png ) Description: http://ads.euobserver.com/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=296campaignid=211zoneid=4loc=http%3A%2F%2Feuobserver.com%2F9%2F31011referer=http%3A%2F%2Feuobserver.com%2Fcb=5c98dccf0eMr Lieberman said that after Europe had solved conflicts in the Caucasus as well as the ongoing disputes over Cyprus and Kosovo, then the Jewish state will listen to your advice, reports the conservative Jerusalem Post. He also suggested that Europe is sacrificing Israel the way it abandoned Czechoslovakia in 1939. In 1938 Europe placated Hitler, sacrificing Czechoslovakia instead of supporting it, and gained nothing from it, he said, according to Haaretz, the left-leaning Israeli daily. We will not be the Czechoslovakia of 2010, we will stand up for Israel's vital interests. Mr Lieberman suggested that the international community was trying to compensate for its failures elsewhere in the world by pushing for a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians. What about the struggle in Somalia, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan and Sudan? he continued. Instead of talking now with the Arab League about the future of a referendum in Sudan, or discussing the explosive situation in Iraq in 2012, the international community is applying great pressure on Israel. The strong words came as Mr Kouchner reportedly signalled that the creation of a Palestinian state may have to come via the United Nations Security Council if peace negotiations falter. In an interview with Palestinian paper Al-Ayyam, the French minister said that Paris would prefer a two-state solution to be agreed by both sides, but that the former option could not be ruled out. We want to be able to soon welcome the state of Palestine to the United Nations. This is the hope and the desire of the international community, and the sooner that can happen the better, he said. The international community cannot be satisfied with a prolonged deadlock. I therefore believe that one cannot rule out in principle the Security Council option, he said. But the establishment of the Palestinian state must come as a result of the peace process and be the fruit of bilateral negotiations. The two ministers also met with President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, defence minister Ehud Barak and Tzipi Livni, a former foreign minister and leader of the opposition centrist Kadima party. The other government leaders told the two Europeans that the international community must be flexible over the issue of a freeze on the construction of settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories. The Israeli government has refused to extend a 10-month partial freeze that ended in September on new settlement building, illegal under international law. Over the weekend, Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas said to Arab foreign ministers that his side would consider a request before the UN Security Council if the peace talks collapse as a result of the settlement issue. The Israeli defence minister, Ehud Barak, of the centre-left Labour Party, was reportedly more cordial with the two European ministers. They both take a lot of time working towards a real European contribution to peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he said. I know that they are both friends of Israel, and they are respected by the Palestinians and throughout the Arab world. Therefore, they can really help.q uot; http://euobserver.com/9/31011 http://euobserver.com/9/31011 __._,_.___ Reply to mailto:miros...@antic.org?subject=israel:
[SNN] Russia Ukraine
Eurasia Review - http://www.eurasiareview.com/http://www.eurasiareview.com/ Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - http://www.eurasiareview.com/201010139040/beyond-the-edward-lucas-peter-hitchens-exchange-on-russia-and-ukraine.htmlhttp://www.eurasiareview.com/201010139040/beyond-the-edward-lucas-peter-hitchens-exchange-on-russia-and-ukraine.html Beyond the Edward Lucas-Peter Hitchens Exchange on Russia and Ukraine By Michael Averko Peter Hitchens' September 27 Mail Online article As Ukrainians force Russians to turn their back on their language and change their names, I ask, is this the world's most absurd city?http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2010/09/as-ukrainians-force-russians-to-turn-their-back-on-their-language-and-change-their-names-i-ask-is-th.html on his visit to the Crimean port city of Sevastopol drew a reply from The Economist's Edward Lucas (Foggy at the bottomhttp://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2010/09/western_media_and_its_lapses, Eastern approacheshttp://www.economist.com/blogs/eastern-approaches, September 29). Lucas' piece includes a follow-up last word from Hitchens. My thanks to Owen Polley of Three Thousand Versts of Lonelinesshttp://threethousandversts.blogspot.com/ for initially bringing Lucas' commentary to my attention. As seems often if not always the instance with such interaction, some follow-up points can be added. (The capitalization of article titles and the respective venues they appear in are stated in line with the given preference.) Lucas suggests that Hitchens leans towards favoring larger countries in disputes with smaller ones. In contrast, is it fair to say that Lucas tends to have a soft spot for smaller countries at odds with Russia? Larger countries are not always at fault, or near complete blame, in disputes with smaller nations. The situation in Ukraine is not a simple matter of an ethnic Russian minority fifth column running opposite the majority of Ukraine's population. Lucas' friend, the late Roman Kupchinskyhttp://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2010/07/americas_war_fallen, is not alone in acknowledging pro-Russian sympathy among ethnic Ukrainians. (Kupchinsky's comments about Russia and Ukraine are discussed in my Russia Blog article of this past February 9 Improving Russia's Image and Russo-Ukrainian Relationshttp://www.russiablog.org/2010/02/improving-russias-image-russian-ukrainian-relations.php.) Politically aware Brits like Lucas and Hitchens know about the rival nationalist and pro-United Kingdom sympathies in Scotland. Ethnically and linguistically, Russians and Ukrainians are more closely related than Scots and English. This comparison is not made with the intent to deny the existence of the internationally recognized Ukrainian state. Rather, it is said to underscore the reality that much of Ukraine's population does not view Russia with negativity, while feeling a close historical and cultural bond with their neighbor. The Lucas and Hitchens exchange leaves open some room to further discuss the matter of public opinion in Ukraine on Russian related topics. Adding onto their dialogue are polls conducted over the years, indicating considerable support for closer Russian-Ukrainian ties. These polls include a May 25, 2009 published Research and Branding Group studyhttp://grahamstack.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/would-the-real-ukraine-please-stand-up/ and a February 18, 2010 announced IFAK-Ukraine International Research Agency surveyhttp://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/59865/. Lucas pointedly brings up the World War II era deportation of the Crimean Tatars. There are a number of other particulars concerning the Crimean Tatars. Part of Crimean territory became affiliated with the medieval state of Rus, which modern day Russia, Ukraine and Belarus trace their origin to. Later on, the Tatars settled in Crimea. The Tatar Khanate in Crimea established a slave trade against Slavs and some others. Crimea became part of the Russian Empire in 1783. During World War II, the Crimean Tatars were exiled and interned by the Soviet government, under very harsh conditions. The reason for this treatment (having to do with an ethically challenged notion of collective disloyalty during war) is akin to what Japanese North-Americans faced at the same time. (The latter had much better conditions, due to the more desirable wartime socioeconomic circumstances in North America and the different political situation between the Soviet Union and North America.) Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev's 1954 transfer of Crimea from Russia to Ukraine was implemented to honor the 300th anniversary of a treaty uniting the post-Rus era Russian state with the Cossacks, who governed much of the territory of what is now contemporary Ukraine. The Cossacks have been portrayed as a sort of national symbol of Ukraine. Within present day Ukraine, the Cossacks are not (for the most part) among the Russia
[SNN] Kosovo: Hillary Clinton Gives Familiar Raised Arm Salute To Spouse's Statue
http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/13/hillary_clinton_visits_statue_of_husband_bill_in_kosovo Foreign Policy October 13, 2010 http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/13/hillary_clinton_visits_statue_of_husband_bill_in_kosovo Hillary Clinton visits statue of husband Bill in Kosovo Posted By http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/blog/45 P.J. Aroon http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/files/ClintonStatue105230274.jpg Secretary Clinton is in Kosovo today, and many people there love the Clintons. In the capital, Pristina, Clinton visited an 11-foot statue of her husband Bill, who as U.S. president backed the 1999 NATO air campaign that stopped a crackdown by Serbian forces on Kosovo's ethnically Albanian majority. When he attended the unveiling of the statue last year, he was greeted with a http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/11/02/bill_clinton_the_delicious_version giant cake bearing his portrait. And, both http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/12/clinton_arrives_in_the_balkans Hillary and http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/25/bill_clinton_has_a_banner_day_in_kosovo Bill have been lauded on billboards in Pristina. === . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=1177894/grpspId=1705063985/msgId=10323/stime=1286994412/nc1=5522123/nc2=3848640/nc3=5733768 __,_._,___ ___ News mailing list News@antic.org http://lists.antic.org/mailman/listinfo/news
[SNN] Serbia apologises after Italy football clashes
Serbia apologises after Italy football clashes * AFP/File – Serbian supporters burn an Albanian flag before the European 2012 qualifying football match between Italy … – 1 hr 24 mins ago ROME (AFP) – http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Serbia apologised to Italy on Wednesday after clashes between Serbian fans and Italian police that forced the cancellation of a Euro 2012 qualifying match, as football officials mulled possible sanctions. Sixteen people were hospitalised including a http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl police officer with first degree burns and 17 arrests were made following the violence, which began before the scrapped match and continued late into the night, officials said. I have just received a phone call from Serbian Foreign Minister http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Vuk Jeremic, who presented a formal apology from the government, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini told reporters. Jeremic promised to intensify the search for those responsible and to capture the criminals who will be punished to set an example, he said. Serbia's interior ministry however pointed out that Italy had not requested information about the hooligans beforehand and said Italian police could have worked better. An Italian interior ministry official charged with football crowd control, Roberto Massucci, said there had been flaws in the information system between Italy and Serbia. European football's governing body UEFA said it had ordered a thorough disciplinary investigation into the serious crowd trouble. Serbia face possible disqualification from Euro 2012 over the violence. Italy coach Cesare Prandelli said he was afraid for the safety of Italian fans as events unfolded. Prandelli was a Juventus player during the infamous Heysel Stadium tragedy in 1985 in which 39 people died when a wall collapsed as Juventus fans fled Liverpool hooligans who had scaled a fence to try to attack them. It was a night of torment. I thought again and again about how the violence of a few can hold a match and a whole city in its grip, said Prandelli. When I saw that the Serbian ultras were trying to break through a screen separating them from the Italian fans I was really scared. I saw many people with children turning on their heels. When it's like that anything can happen. It doesn't take much for it to transform into a night of tragedy. The violence brought sharp condemnation from both Italy and Serbia. The Beast, read a front-page headline in La Gazzetta dello Sport next to a picture of a man thought to be Ivan Bogdanov, the alleged ring-leader, dressed in a black T-shirt with a skull and crossbones and doing a fascist salute. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Corriere della Sera said: The English were excluded from European football for five years (following Heysel). It's time that this happens to others. Serbia has long had serious problems with violent football fans, many of whom are linked to ultra-nationalist organisations. In Belgrade any match between local rivals http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Partizan and Red Star usually provokes incidents. In September last year a French supporter of Toulouse who went to Belgrade to see his club play a Europa League match died after being attacked by fans of opposing side Partizan Belgrade. The trial against the 14 suspects is ongoing. Football hooligans have also been named as participants in Sunday's riots protesting Belgrade's Gay Pride Parade when 6,000 rioters battled with police and caused one million euros (1.4 million dollars) in material damage. The match was abandoned on Tuesday night just six minutes in, after Italy's goalkeeper Emiliano Viviano appeared to be hit by a flare, which Serbian fans were throwing onto the pitch and at Italian supporters. There were clashes later in the night when some fans broke out of a gated parking area and police in riot gear moved in to try to get them under control. Television images showed chaotic scenes of clashes between Serbia supporters and police around the fans' buses, as well as firework explosions. Ultras earlier on Tuesday attacked a http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl police car, urinated in the main public square and even attacked their own goalkeeper Vladimir Stojkovic, throwing a flare at him when he was in the team bus outside their hotel. Thugs also left graffiti inside the Marassi stadium glorifying former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic and his military commander Ratko Mladic, both accused of genocide and war crimes against Bosnian Muslims. ~WRD039.jpg___ News mailing list News@antic.org http://lists.antic.org/mailman/listinfo/news
[SNN] Serbs - citizens of Russia
THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIAN KRAJINA GOVERNMENT IN EXILE 11080 Zemun, 3 Magistratski trg Tel. 3077-028, vlada...@gmail.comNo. 1233/10 – Sept. 29, 2010 To President of the Russian Federation, His Excellency Dmitry Medvedev (delivered through the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Belgrade) Your Excellency, We sent a letter to you on September 27, 2009 (No. 969/09 – 27. 01. 2009) and we reminded you of the horrible injustice of the international community against the Serbian people in the Republic of the Serbian Krajina (UN Protected Area) and Croatia. The expulsion of the Serbian people was carried out by the Croatian Army on May 1st and on August 4th 1995, with the political and diplomatic support of the member states of the EU and NATO. You are President of one of the most powerful countries of the World. Taking this into account, the Russian Federation is responsible for the destiny of Civilization and for the destiny of the deprived Serbian people in it. History teaches us that any evil inflicted to the Serbian people was inevitably inflicted to the Russian people and state, too. The reason for this is a century-long strategy of the West European powers and the Vatican (in the last two centuries joined by the USA), according to which Russia should be conquered and its enormous geographical space and mineral riches exploited. The Vatican and West European countries used to launch war campaigns against Russia, recruiting Catholic Slavs, and in the WW I and WW II Orthodox Bulgarians as well. They did not succeed only in winning over Orthodox Serbs for this strategic hostility against Orthodox Russia, but they hope to achieve it in near future. Because of centuries-long brotherhood between the Russians and Orthodox Serbs, the West used to convert Serbs into Catholic faith, or to exterminate them biologically – using Catholic Southern Slavs and Muslims in that crime of genocide as well. The break-up of Yugoslavia was carried out in order to inflict harm to Russia. Yugoslavia as a state had Serbian Orthodox majority and the West feared that Serbs could make Yugoslavia an ally of Russia. They knew very well that without such Yugoslavia there would be no potential Russian ally – in case of war or deteriorated relations between the West and Russia. This is why the NATO member states have reduced Serbian state to a meaninglessly small space: 1. The territory of the Republic of Serbian Krajina (UN Protected Area) has been completely ethnically cleansed (Serbs constituted 88% of population) and included into the Croatian state; and 2. Serbs have been expelled from Kosovo and Metohija, and the West has additionally brought Muslim Shiptars from Albania, proclaiming this Serbian territory a new state. In the same way as in our previous letter, we remind you that the UN Security Council put the Republic of Serbian Krajina under the protection of the United Nations. This was done through Resolution 743 (1992), where it was stated that in the Republic of Serbian Krajina would not be applied laws of the Republic of Croatia. Such a decision of the UN was based on centuries-old sovereignty of the Krajina Serbs. That sovereignty was established by the decision of Hungarian king Mathias Corvin in 1473. The king granted Serbian self-government and independent military and judiciary organizing of the Serbs. Such status of the Krajina Serbs was confirmed by Austria in 1639, when Emeperor Ferdinand II signed the Serbian Constitution (Wallachian Constitution – Statuta Vallachorum). Serbs in Austria had their own municipal courts and the Supreme Court, free of interference of Austrian courts. (In that time Croatians were only serfs in Austrian state). The sovereignty of the Krajina Serbs was also confirmed after WW I, when The State of Serbs, Croatians and Slovenes was formed. It united with Serbia to form Yugoslavia in 1918. The sovereignty of Serbs in the Republic of Serbian Krajina was confirmed by the decisions of Antifascist Council of People’s Liberation of Yugoslavia in 1943, what was included in the Constitution of the Republic of Croatia in 1945. Croatia was established as a binational state of Croatians and Serbs, like Belgium, which is the state of Flemings and Wallonians. The Croatian Parliament abolished the sovereignty of the Serbs, proclaiming, in 1990, the Republic of Croatia the state of Croatian people only. A group of members of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, suggested the Croatian Parliament that Croatia restore the sovereignty status of the Serbian people and that it be a binational state, as it was until 1990. The Serbian sovereignty in Krajina has been confirmed by the
Re: [SNN] Serbia apologises after Italy football clashes
Serbia face possible disqualification from Euro 2012 over the violence. Most probably and again the fault of the vassal government of Boris Tadic. Again Serbs showed their self-consciousness and the self-respect, and if they are disqualified it is because of Hillary Clinton… bla…blab la.. The French TV and the former French selector violently criticized Serbian supporters who, “manifested their political attitude instead of a simple sport support. D.Rakic From: balkann...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:balkann...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ANTIC.org-SNN Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:26 PM To: 'Balkan News'; balkanr...@yahoogroups.com; news@antic.org; n...@siem.net; postojb...@yahoogroups.com; se...@googlegroups.com; 'SerbianNewsNetwork'; sora...@yahoogroups.com; srbija_medjusljiv...@yahoogroups.com; 'YUGO' Cc: Global L Subject: [SNN] Serbia apologises after Italy football clashes Serbia apologises after Italy football clashes * AFP/File – Serbian supporters burn an Albanian flag before the European 2012 qualifying football match between Italy … – 1 hr 24 mins ago ROME (AFP) – http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Serbia apologised to Italy on Wednesday after clashes between Serbian fans and Italian police that forced the cancellation of a Euro 2012 qualifying match, as football officials mulled possible sanctions. Sixteen people were hospitalised including a http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl police officer with first degree burns and 17 arrests were made following the violence, which began before the scrapped match and continued late into the night, officials said. I have just received a phone call from Serbian Foreign Minister http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Vuk Jeremic, who presented a formal apology from the government, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini told reporters. Jeremic promised to intensify the search for those responsible and to capture the criminals who will be punished to set an example, he said. Serbia's interior ministry however pointed out that Italy had not requested information about the hooligans beforehand and said Italian police could have worked better. An Italian interior ministry official charged with football crowd control, Roberto Massucci, said there had been flaws in the information system between Italy and Serbia. European football's governing body UEFA said it had ordered a thorough disciplinary investigation into the serious crowd trouble. Serbia face possible disqualification from Euro 2012 over the violence. Italy coach Cesare Prandelli said he was afraid for the safety of Italian fans as events unfolded. Prandelli was a Juventus player during the infamous Heysel Stadium tragedy in 1985 in which 39 people died when a wall collapsed as Juventus fans fled Liverpool hooligans who had scaled a fence to try to attack them. It was a night of torment. I thought again and again about how the violence of a few can hold a match and a whole city in its grip, said Prandelli. When I saw that the Serbian ultras were trying to break through a screen separating them from the Italian fans I was really scared. I saw many people with children turning on their heels. When it's like that anything can happen. It doesn't take much for it to transform into a night of tragedy. The violence brought sharp condemnation from both Italy and Serbia. The Beast, read a front-page headline in La Gazzetta dello Sport next to a picture of a man thought to be Ivan Bogdanov, the alleged ring-leader, dressed in a black T-shirt with a skull and crossbones and doing a fascist salute. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Corriere della Sera said: The English were excluded from European football for five years (following Heysel). It's time that this happens to others. Serbia has long had serious problems with violent football fans, many of whom are linked to ultra-nationalist organisations. In Belgrade any match between local rivals http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101013/sp_wl_afp/italyserbiaviolencefbl Partizan and Red Star usually provokes incidents. In September last year a French supporter of Toulouse who went to Belgrade to see his club play a Europa League match died after being attacked by fans of opposing side Partizan Belgrade. The trial against the 14 suspects is ongoing. Football hooligans have also been named as participants in Sunday's riots protesting Belgrade's Gay Pride Parade when 6,000 rioters battled with police and caused one million euros (1.4 million dollars) in material damage. The match was abandoned on Tuesday night just six minutes in, after Italy's goalkeeper Emiliano Viviano appeared to be hit by a flare, which Serbian fans were throwing onto the pitch and at Italian supporters. There were clashes later in the night when some fans
[SNN] Movement 1389, Serbian police and democracy
Оn october 12th 2010. US state secretary Hilary Clinton, arrived in official visite to Serbia. Same day, Serbian medias announced that same evening, public discussion will take part in University Rectorat, between Hilary Clinton and representatives of Serbian non-government organisations. Representative of Movement 1389, Rade Ljubicic, went to the Rectorat, in order to take part in this discussion. Unfortunatly, Police did not allow this, they took Rade to the nearest police station for the official statement http://1389.org.rs/dok/informativni%20razgovor%2012.10.2010%20copy.gif , about his intentions. This shows true nature of american police democracy, which goes only for supporters of White house. It also shows true nature of human rights nad freedom in dictatorship euro-uniatic regime of Boris Tadic. http://1389.org.rs/policijska-demokratija.html ___ News mailing list News@antic.org http://lists.antic.org/mailman/listinfo/news
