Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

On 02/20/2016 12:52 AM, zimbatm wrote: > It's a great staging area for content where people can edit without > asking for permission. [...] What are the advantages in comparison to standard pull requests with discussion underneath? We already have lots of infrastructure advantages in there, such

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

After mulling with the topic for a while, I think that we should really try to make that wiki working actually. It's a great staging area for content where people can edit without asking for permission. The issue right now is with our methodology. Maintainers should start subscribing to the

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

On 16-02-14 09:15pm, zimbatm wrote: > But before I invest more time, do you think it's a path worth pursuing ? > Also what would be required for this to be considered "ready" ? Wow, that’s great! What are your thoughts on converting it to a nixos (and nix) cookbook, akin to the Python Cookbook

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

I once created a wiki template based on jekyll and zurb foundation[0]. It should be possible to host this with gh-pages. As far as I can remember, this is almost ready for use, though I'm not a web-dev and it might have some ugly points in the interface, though the underlying code should work.

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Also we are not alone with the spam :) [22:37] alad: I forgot to ask, how do you guys fight against spam on the wiki ? [22:38] zimbatm: there was a recent spam wave, so we've restricted mediawiki API access, add a more difficult captcha, and enabled some extensions like spamregex On Mon, 15

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Alright, let me know how I can help. Personally I am looking forward to much more scoped discussions like how to improve a specific page. On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 at 22:30 Rok Garbas wrote: > Hi Zimbatm and Peter, > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Simons

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Hi Zimbatm and Peter, On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Peter Simons wrote: > Hi Zimbatm, > > > Is the consensus really to kill the wiki or is it just because it's > > in a bad state? > > I suppose Rok is our local kill-the-wiki champion who can give you the > authoritative

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

@Peter: haha, point taken :) So I went on #archlinux and asked a few questions on their wiki (transcript below). It might seem obvious but basically it works because somebody close to the core is owning the wiki. -- [21:29] over at #nixos we are wondering how arch manages to have such an

[Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

I often find myself on the Arch wiki and porting the content to apply to my NixOS setup. Perhaps that would be a systematic way to start, consider it a port. Take some of the most commonly used Arch wiki pages and make NixOS versions. It would also establish a structure to the wiki. >But I think

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

I feel like contributing a few points in a Wiki's defense, given the general negativity towards it, but I am not on a crusade :) In general, Wikipedia/MediaWiki works because it scales massively and provides excellent tools to detect and cope with vandalism. The git workflow should scale very

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

> Several people have made various initiatives to help improving the wiki, > but curiously enough none of those initiatives actually improved the > *contents*. Nix contributors clearly enjoy making the wiki prettier, > writing fancy CSS configurations, rendering the stuff in sophisticated > web

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

>From a newbie's perspective, I want to say two things: 1. From watching the "kill the wiki" presentation (as well as the later discussions), I believe it was actually meant as a provocative/dramatical (in a good way - as in "thought-provoking"/"wake-up call") way of saying "we ought to improve

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Hi Zimbatm, > Is the consensus really to kill the wiki or is it just because it's > in a bad state? I suppose Rok is our local kill-the-wiki champion who can give you the authoritative answer to this question, but FWIW my impression was that our Wiki is in a rather poor state. Yes, there is

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Sorry if I'm re-digging an old bone. Is the consensus really to kill the wiki or is it just because it's in a bad state ? It still seems like it's holding valuable information and can also serve as a staging area after some cleanup. Anyways if there is no interest, no worries, I'll just be

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Thanks Eelco ! Check this out: http://nixos-wiki-test.zimbatm.com/Main_Page/ It's a conversion to Markdown, a Jekyll template with the nixos-homepage css, all hosted on github. The idea is that people can still edit the wiki but have to submit a PR to introduce changes. It's a bit more work for

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

There was a huge discussion about wiki's future [1]. [1] http://lists.science.uu.nl/pipermail/nix-dev/2015-November/018645.html 2016-02-15 0:15 GMT+03:00 zimbatm : > Thanks Eelco ! > > Check this out: http://nixos-wiki-test.zimbatm.com/Main_Page/ > > It's a conversion to

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Hi, On 10/02/16 18:52, zimbatm wrote: > Is it possible to get a dump using dumpBackup.php ? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Export I've put a dump at https://nixos.org/~eelco/wiki-20160212.xml.gz. -- Eelco Dolstra | LogicBlox, Inc. | http://nixos.org/~eelco/

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

On 02/10/2016 02:34 PM, Arseniy Seroka wrote: > Unavailable from Russian and from Netherlands. I forgot to add that I found the 404 yesterday and only confirmed today that it wasn't a short blackout... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Unavailable from Russian and from Netherlands. 2016-02-10 16:25 GMT+03:00 Vladimír Čunát : > Wiki is dead (404). Is that intentional? > > --Vladimir > > > ___ > nix-dev mailing list > nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl >

[Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Wiki is dead (404). Is that intentional? --Vladimir smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science.uu.nl http://lists.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/nix-dev

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Thanks! On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > Hi, > > On 10/02/16 14:40, Domen Kožar wrote: > > > It was taken down due to spam bots, I hope Eelco finds time to make it > read-only > > instead of unavailable. > > The wiki is back in read-only mode.

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Hi, On 10/02/16 14:40, Domen Kožar wrote: > It was taken down due to spam bots, I hope Eelco finds time to make it > read-only > instead of unavailable. The wiki is back in read-only mode. I deleted the spam accounts / pages. -- Eelco Dolstra | LogicBlox, Inc. | http://nixos.org/~eelco/

Re: [Nix-dev] Wiki is dead

Is it possible to get a dump using dumpBackup.php ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Export I would like to try something out now that the wiki is read-only. On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 at 16:50 Domen Kožar wrote: > Thanks! > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Eelco Dolstra < >