[Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

Free software doesn’t mean it is free as in free beer. There are a couple of (very good) applications, that are sold, like for example Ardour or Radium. They are normally distributed as binaries, but come with the source code (as required by their license). I think nixpkgs should include them as

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 281593: jpegrescan: init at 2016-06-01

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Re: [Nix-dev] How to fix corrupt .drv files in nix store?

On 5 July 2016 at 17:57, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/05/2016 05:18 PM, Bjørn Forsman wrote: >> Long version: >> I wanted to see how atomic and safe a NixOS update process really is, >> so I abused one of my systems by pulling the rootfs disk from it a >>

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 3d316d: icoutils: perl dependencies added #15894

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Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 6 July 2016 at 12:27, Profpatsch wrote: > Free software doesn’t mean it is free as in free beer. > > There are a couple of (very good) applications, that are > sold, like for example Ardour or Radium. > They are normally distributed as binaries, but come with > the source

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] d5c8d7: liberal-crime-squad: 2016-05-08 -> 2016-07-06

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Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 6 July 2016 at 12:50, Bjørn Forsman wrote: > On 6 July 2016 at 12:27, Profpatsch wrote: >> Free software doesn’t mean it is free as in free beer. >> >> There are a couple of (very good) applications, that are >> sold, like for example Ardour or

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

I've been thinking about the mechanics of FOSS app stores. If you don't want to handle the payments, you need to implement a kind of payment-authentication, where the principle is the same as dealing with private packages. Instead the key being used is a key that is derived from a successful

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 09e1b2: mps: 1.114.0 -> 1.115.0, fix build

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Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 16-07-06 11:58am, zimbatm wrote: > We can provide the derivation but ask the user to download the source > themselves. I think we already have such a mechanism in place for non-free > software. But that’s not necessary at all. The source is available openly and we can also have hydra build the

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 16-07-06 10:16pm, Roger Qiu wrote: > I've been thinking about the mechanics of FOSS app stores. If you don't want > to handle the payments, you need to implement a kind of > payment-authentication, where the principle is the same as dealing with > private packages. Instead the key being used is

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 04:35:51PM +0200, Moritz Ulrich wrote: > > Philip Carlsen writes: > > > Consider instead something like thks in nixpkgs config: > > ardour = { > > isPaid = true; > > } > > I like this approach. It's plain and simple. We just need to make sure > that

[Nix-dev] evalModules: how to use it?

Hi. I have a container generator: mkContainer = { config, lib , additionalConfig ? {} }: let containerParams = { autoStart = true; }; in containerParams // { config = { config, pkgs, lib, ... }: { imports = [ ]; networking.firewall.enable = false; } //

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 16-07-06 09:50am, Kevin Cox wrote: > On 06/07/16 09:25, Bjørn Forsman wrote: > > On 6 July 2016 at 14:19, Profpatsch wrote: > IIUC you can't "really require" money for a GPL program. You can charge > for the distribution or for binaries or whatever you like, but nothing >

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 87be90: links2: 2.12 -> 2.13 (#16756)

Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs Commit: 87be90336fa26cf99400d97cbd6936ec71171089 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/87be90336fa26cf99400d97cbd6936ec71171089 Author: Miguel Madrid Date: 2016-07-06 (Wed, 06 Jul 2016)

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 7129eb: dolphin-emu: 4.0.2 -> 5.0

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Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 16-07-07 03:12am, Jookia wrote: > Is this going to be the Nix software store? No, but we should strife to enable developers however we can. We are only gathering stuff others gratiously provide us access to, after all. I think this goes further. Once we have e.g. donation info in nixpkgs, we

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 18312f: perl-Test-Simple: 1.302022 -> 1.302037

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Re: [Nix-dev] evalModules: how to use it?

On 6 July 2016 at 18:06, Daniel Hlynskyi wrote: > Hi. I have a container generator: > > mkContainer = > { config, lib > , additionalConfig ? {} > }: > let > containerParams = >{ autoStart = true; >}; > in > containerParams // > { config = { config, pkgs, lib, ...

[Nix-dev] On a sad state of declarative containers management

I've collected the list of issues with containers. Go through this list before starting using them. Declarative containers are good, but be prepared = Bidirectional container access - https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/16754 Container interface is not removed when declarative

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Profpatsch wrote: > On 16-07-07 01:18am, Jookia wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 04:35:51PM +0200, Moritz Ulrich wrote: > > Is it really Nix's job to enforcing the business models of software, rather > > than > > just packaging it? Surely the

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 16-07-07 01:18am, Jookia wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 04:35:51PM +0200, Moritz Ulrich wrote: > Is it really Nix's job to enforcing the business models of software, rather > than > just packaging it? Surely the application could just have a nag screen (if it > doesn't already.) How about

Re: [Nix-dev] Inconsistency detected by ld.so

Hi Arnold, Do you by any chance have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set? If yes, check if unset'ing it helps. Renato On 06/07/16 17:52, Arnold Krille wrote: > Hi all, > > I am encountering a strange problem here. mosh fails to start because of > some inconsistency detected by ld.so? > > Shell output: >

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] b30852: nixos/swap: support for resizing swapfile

Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs Commit: b30852ed41f7e6729de9a75a71a671ce7d03dff9 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/b30852ed41f7e6729de9a75a71a671ce7d03dff9 Author: Bjørn Forsman Date: 2016-07-06 (Wed, 06 Jul

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

I'm interested. Free and proprietary software should be installed in the same way in my opinion. On 07/07/2016 12:27 AM, "Moritz Bartl" wrote: > On 07/06/2016 03:32 PM, Profpatsch wrote: > > On 16-07-06 10:16pm, Roger Qiu wrote: > >> I've been thinking about the

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016, at 06:48 PM, Profpatsch wrote: > On 16-07-06 09:50am, Kevin Cox wrote: > > IIUC you can't "really require" money for a GPL program. You can charge > > for the distribution or for binaries or whatever you like, but nothing > > is stopping others from building and distributing

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

I have to agree with Jookia on this. I don't think this issue concerns nix. To be honest I'm not even sure there's an issue here. I've never heard of something called "free open-source that costs money". The first part negates the second. Ardour was mentioned but I can't find a single reference

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] fe2468: pypi2nix: 1.1.0 -> 1.2.0

Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs Commit: fe2468b88cbc586232a86aedf8e00facf8919219 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/fe2468b88cbc586232a86aedf8e00facf8919219 Author: Rok Garbas Date: 2016-07-07 (Thu, 07 Jul 2016) Changed

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 12:10:41AM +0200, Profpatsch wrote: > No, but we should strife to enable developers however we can. Could we perhaps find a way to do this without requiring the user to lie about paying for something just to install something they don't need to pay for?

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

Philip Carlsen writes: > Consider instead something like thks in nixpkgs config: > ardour = { > isPaid = true; > } I like this approach. It's plain and simple. We just need to make sure that `nixos-rebuild` and `nix-env` display appropriate messages telling users how/where

Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

On 06/07/16 09:25, Bjørn Forsman wrote: > On 6 July 2016 at 14:19, Profpatsch wrote: > > But that still looks like opt-in payment. I'm sure Ardour users > already know that upstream wants money for it, even without the above > mechanism. (But I guess if a lot of upstreams do

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] c70db3: cassandra_3_0: 3.0.7 -> 3.0.8

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Re: [Nix-dev] Packaging free software that costs money

Den 6. jul. 2016 2.19 PM skrev "Profpatsch" : > > On 16-07-06 11:58am, zimbatm wrote: > > We can provide the derivation but ask the user to download the source > > themselves. I think we already have such a mechanism in place for non-free > > software. > > But that’s not

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 851cd1: pythonPackages.pyexcelerator: init at 0.6.4.1

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[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 6876ea: pythonPackages.tornado: fix tests, closes #14634

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[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] aeb516: nixos/grub: change state file device separator fro...

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[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] 09f366: solarus: init at 1.4.5

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Re: [Nix-dev] Intermittent Blank Screen upon Opening Laptop Lid

It does seem like a lot of people are experiencing this problem (on NixOS and beyond). I'll have to perform some experiments and play around with it to see how I can replicate it deterministically. On 5/07/2016 1:15 PM, Ruben Astudillo wrote: I got the same problem. I think I know the

[Nix-commits] [NixOS/nixpkgs] bdc179: kde5.kile: 2016-02-14 -> 2016-07-02

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