[nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Chaney
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Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 03:12:34PM -0500, Michael Chaney wrote: You can probably guess the gist of the e-learning courses. I'm obviously missing something here. How is this a dirty trick? John -- We must respect the

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread j...@coats.org
I am guessing M$ doesn't want TN to be the 'latest state to move their office suite to Google Apps'. Legal? Yes. Predatory marketing? Yes. Do I wish we had taken them the other way (by making a big deal with the public about 'free office suite' from Google? Yes. IMHO, GatesCo have done one

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Chaney
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote: I don't understand how this is dirty, either?  If they want to give something away, why can't they?  Google could give stuff away (and does).  Apple could give stuff away (but doesn't.)  Linux could give stuff away

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Don Delp
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Chaney mdcha...@michaelchaney.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote: I don't understand how this is dirty, either?  If they want to give something away, why can't they?  Google could give stuff away

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread j...@coats.org
'Free' and Microsoft in the same sentence makes it an oxymoron. Even 'free' and Google (or any other company) gets me wondering. Google's model is usually 'we will put some adds on your ..(drug dejour)..' Microsoft is more like Gillette, give away the razor, sell the blades. (upgrades,

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Donald
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, j...@coats.org j...@coats.org wrote: 'Free' and Microsoft in the same sentence makes it an oxymoron. Even 'free' and Google (or any other company) gets me wondering. Google gave me a free phone (Droid) just for writing an Android app that became popular.

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:05:44PM -0500, j...@coats.org wrote: 'Free' and Microsoft in the same sentence makes it an oxymoron. You do realize, I hope, that m$ is one of the top-ranking companies in charitble contributions? This is just another marketing ploy from M$. I just

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Chaney
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Greg Donald gdon...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:05 PM, j...@coats.org j...@coats.org wrote: 'Free' and Microsoft in the same sentence makes it an oxymoron. Even 'free' and Google (or any other company) gets me wondering. Google gave me a free

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Chris McQuistion
All this talk about 'free' being possibly bad and having ulterior motives makes me a little confused. Isn't Linux and the Free Software movement all about 'free' (as in beer) just as much as free (as in speech)? How can the same people that applaud Linux being 'free' give Microsoft a hard time

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread j...@coats.org
I am sure I do hold a double standard. But I have held this one for a long time since Bill Gates published his 'Bill Gates' Open Letter to Hobbyists' in 1976, http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html But I am sure that is just my baggage. No, I didn't use M$ basic, I used

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Chaney
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.edu wrote: All this talk about 'free' being possibly bad and having ulterior motives makes me a little confused. Isn't Linux and the Free Software movement all about 'free' (as in beer) just as much as free (as in speech)?

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Paul Boniol
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Chris McQuistion cmcquist...@watkins.eduwrote: All this talk about 'free' being possibly bad and having ulterior motives makes me a little confused. Isn't Linux and the Free Software movement all about 'free' (as in beer) just as much as free (as in speech)?

Re: [nlug] dirty tricks from Microsoft

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Donald
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Michael Chaney mdcha...@michaelchaney.com wrote: Wow.  McDonald's will give you a free paycheck if you work for them, too. Google Adsense for Mobile Content pays well. Whatever Google is making on the ads I show in my Android apps, it's more than fine with me :)