[Nmh-workers] "make test"

2012-02-07 Thread David Levine
Josh Bresser's test suite is now integrated into the Makefile. "make test" runs it. And builds nmh if needed and you want to do both with one command. It already caught two code errors: a segfault in "new" due to an uninitialized variable and a recent regression in the display of timezone. And

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-07, at 10:13 AM, Joel Uckelman wrote: > What you're describing here is far beyond what I was intending; I only > want a seamless way to apply my eyeballs to these broken messages. I don't think it gets any more seamless than cat. I would have show (and anything else) print the full p

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Joel Uckelman
Thus spake Lyndon Nerenberg: > > all > > such nonconforming mail in the bin. That said, when I get mail from > > ConfMaster, it tends to be mail that I need to read, so I appreciate = > it > > when nmh can take a guess and perhaps show me some not-too-garbled = > text. > > (In this particular case

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Earl Hood
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Joel Uckelman wrote: > My suggestion, then, is this: Could we both have some indication that > the input is bad, *and* have nmh make an attempt at interpreting it? -1 You can already invoke show to disable MIME processing, so when you encounter such a message, ju

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-07, at 9:29 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > being liberal about what you except Oh good lord, did I really write that?!? :-) ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> I would love to be able to prevail upon them to fix this or to dump all > such nonconforming mail in the bin. That said, when I get mail from > ConfMaster, it tends to be mail that I need to read, so I appreciate it > when nmh can take a guess and perhaps show me some not-too-garbled text. > (In

Re: [Nmh-workers] urls from mhpath, and message store abstraction layers.

2012-02-07 Thread Earl Hood
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Joel Uckelman wrote: >> If/when IMAP support is added in, mhpath will return >> imap URLs.  If one is using the existing classic storage >> model, then local pathnames are returned. > > IMAP URLs aren't paths, at least not in the sense I take 'path' to have > in 'm

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Earl Hood
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> But do you really think that >> should be the only resort when badly formed mail arrives? I'd prefer to >> see what was intended by the sender. > > Yes, I do :-(  QP and Base64 (and MIME in general) have been around for > nearly two dec

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Joel Uckelman
Thus spake Lyndon Nerenberg: > > On 2012-02-07, at 7:37 AM, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > > > But do you really think that > > should be the only resort when badly formed mail arrives? I'd prefer to > > see what was intended by the sender. > > Yes, I do :-( QP and Base64 (and MIME in general) have bee

Re: [Nmh-workers] Thoughts on IMAP

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-07, at 9:36 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > this means MH would keep a local cache of the content on the IMAP server. Doh. The local cache would, obviously, be kept locally, not on the server. ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.

[Nmh-workers] Thoughts on IMAP

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
There seem to be a few misconceptions about how IMAP works. Let me try to explain in a bit more detail about how I think IMAP would work with MH. First, and perhaps most important, IMAP support does not preclude keeping local copies of the message content in the native MH store. MH would grow

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-07, at 7:37 AM, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > But do you really think that > should be the only resort when badly formed mail arrives? I'd prefer to > see what was intended by the sender. Yes, I do :-( QP and Base64 (and MIME in general) have been around for nearly two decades now. If the

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread paul vixie
On 2/7/2012 3:37 PM, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> Or you could use cat(1). > Well that's what I do do. > > It's great that MH makes that easy and there are various situations in > which I will go straight to the file. But do you really think that > should be the only resort whe

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Oliver Kiddle
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > On 2012-02-07, at 3:00 AM, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > > I'd prefer to just see the email. mhshow could have a -pedantic or -lint > > option. > > Or you could use cat(1). Well that's what I do do. It's great that MH makes that easy and there are various situations in which I

[Nmh-workers] nmh unix shells

2012-02-07 Thread norm
>ps... >If all you want from mh is "show/next/comp/repl/rmm" you might just as well >use thunderbird, or sylpheed, or even outlook express. Not even that's true. Such a user still has all the power of a Unix shell. For example, if she is using bash: % !scan or % show irs | egrep -i 'penalty|as

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread paul vixie
On 2/7/2012 2:36 PM, Ken Hornstein wrote: >> ... (nb: >> this is not to denigrate IMAP. For people whose needs it serves, it is >> just fine, it is just that those needs, and MH's requirements, aren't >> compatible.) > Well, people have made what I consider reasonable arguments in terms of > use c

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Ken Hornstein
>I don't understand that, I've used multiple identities, without any >particular difficulties, for a long time now (> 20 years), and MH (and >later nmh) just works as it is. That is, to say, in this area I see >no need for any changes, and consequently no need for any code to be >developed. Well,

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2012-02-07, at 3:00 AM, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > I'd prefer to just see the email. mhshow could have a -pedantic or -lint > option. Or you could use cat(1). ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Oliver Kiddle
To me, Ken's suggestions here sound good. In just about every installation of nmh I've ever had, the first thing I do is to set masquerdade: draft_from. (Currently, I have exim configured to choose an appropriate smarthost based on the From address. I have From: set in my draft as part of my promp

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Tethys
Robert Elz writes: >If all you want from mh is "show/next/comp/repl/rmm" you might just as >well use thunderbird, or sylpheed, or even outlook express - they all >provide methods to read, delete, reply, ... to e-mail, and usually with >a user interface that is easier to master. Don't be so sure

Re: [Nmh-workers] masquerade settings & spost

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:53:04 -0500 From:Ken Hornstein Message-ID: <201202070653.q176r4r9026...@hedwig.cmf.nrl.navy.mil> | Well, here's the problem ... it's easy for you to say that, isn't it? | I mean, you're not the one doing the coding. :-/ Believe me, I unde