Re: [Nmh-workers] message rewrite/fix up

2013-02-09 Thread Harald Geyer
I'm not a w3m user but I think that formats the HTML into text? I was interested in a base64 windows-1252 text/plain staying as text/plain but utf-8 and 8-bit. IOW, ideal for grep. Me too, but probably that would be a different tool? Personally I care about the message in it's most usable

Re: [Nmh-workers] message rewrite/fix up

2013-02-09 Thread Harald Geyer
Backup (,) message files aren't, either, and I view the originals as similar in that respect. With the Message-ID files, the original can be found with an easy grep. Me too, as I won't keep them anyway. But those who actually want to keep originals for something other than just debugging:

Re: [Nmh-workers] Quoted printable problem

2012-12-18 Thread Harald Geyer
Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk: AIUI we know of two emails that are broken. That doesn't seem enough to warrant changing the code to not match the RFCs and opening the door a bit more, encouraging further forgiveness of broken input. Members of the list getting a duff email a week?

Re: [Nmh-workers] Dealing with missing From: header during send.

2012-01-09 Thread Harald Geyer
, and what do we use as the MAIL FROM: message as part of the SMTP transaction? Well, if we can't come up with anything better, then just whatever we use now. Some details: I write this message without a From line, but it will be filed in my outbox with a line of From:Harald Geyer lam...@a.g4

[Nmh-workers] Debian (was: nmh now available via MacPorts)

2012-01-05 Thread harald . geyer
Hi! How are the debs maintained for Ubuntu and Debian? It would be good to make sure they track our (your!) hard work. I'm not sure how that works; does anyone happen to know? Typically, the Debian Developer (maintaining the package) bundles your released source with his own patches

[Nmh-workers] annoying DNS lookups

2011-05-12 Thread Harald Geyer
Hi! I observe that on one of my machines (IPv6 only system) every time I run scan/show/repl (and probably others) a DNS query for the A record of the machines hostname is sent. If a NXDOMAIN comes back everything is fine, but if the request is lost then the command hangs for a few seconds. This

Re: [Nmh-workers] Understanding nmh (aka. What's the goal) [ really non-ASCII message bodies ]

2010-12-07 Thread harald . geyer
Jon Steinhart j...@fourwinds.com: The current behavior was the best idea that I had at the time and nobody has said anything about it until recently. I don't mind it changing, but I don't want to all of a sudden get complaints from people who were counting on this behavior. Well, I always

Re: [Nmh-workers] Verizon DSL block

2010-01-22 Thread Harald Geyer
I have heard that a small change in the file mts/smtp/smtp.c (of nmh 1.3) will change the mail port from 25 to 587 and get around Verizon's port 25 block. Does anyone have that change? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. I had the same problem (using a different ISP). My

Re: [Nmh-workers] [PATCH] scan message numbers from stdin

2008-08-18 Thread Harald Geyer
This is, I suppose, a bit controversial, since it's a UI change. But, combined with having pick write out numbers as it finds them (uip/pick.c r1.15), this is insanely useful. You can 'pick whatever | scan -' and interrupt it when you find what you're looking for. Yes, I think this would be

Re: [Nmh-workers] The invisible mail folder

2007-02-26 Thread Harald Geyer
I still think that numeric folder names rise questions: Consider the above example. cur = inbox/11100. What should refile next:22 +foo do? Move the numeric folder? Leave a copy with the name ,1 around? (Note that you can't have hardlinks to directories on the filesystems I know.)

Re: [Nmh-workers] The invisible mail folder

2007-02-25 Thread Harald Geyer
I just realized that you can do refile 1 + and it works perfectly well, that is: It does the only consistent thing to do and puts the message directly into ~/Mail That is surely a bug. Yes, I did expect an error message, but after thinking about it, I don't want nmh to prevent me from

[Nmh-workers] The invisible mail folder

2007-02-24 Thread Harald Geyer
Hi! I just realized that you can do refile 1 + and it works perfectly well, that is: It does the only consistent thing to do and puts the message directly into ~/Mail Actually it seems that most commands work fairly well on + but there is one anomaly: The current folder always gets set to

Re: [Nmh-workers] exciting new stuff for 2.0

2005-12-22 Thread Harald Geyer
So what exactly are the plans for 2.0? I think the more important question is: Which of the various plans that people have, need a major effort before the can be released and which things can drip in as they get done? For the later i think Jon's approach of Do whatever you like to see! is just

Re: [Nmh-workers] exciting new stuff for 2.0

2005-12-22 Thread Harald Geyer
How about: 441 12/18 Joel Uckelman (0) [Nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid QUO 442 12/18 Josh Bressers (1) Re: [Nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid 443 12/18 Paul Fox (1) Re: [Nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid 444 12/18 Joel Uckelman (2) Re: [Nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid 448

Re: [Nmh-workers] exciting new stuff for 2.0

2005-12-22 Thread Harald Geyer
* Threading support. This is one of the obvious things missing from nmh that just about all modern mailers support. I'm not that sure about this. After all it's about e-mail not usenet. I have something like thread () { pick -subject $1 -seq thread

Re: [Nmh-workers] Replace mh-format?

2005-12-22 Thread Harald Geyer
Jerry I hope John Romine -- who did MH maintenance at UC Irvine for Jerry years -- won't mind my repeating something he mentioned to me Jerry years ago. He was thinking about replacing mh-format -- that Jerry is, code like: Jerry %4(msg)%(cur)+%|

Re: [Nmh-workers] things still to fix for this release?

2005-11-13 Thread Harald Geyer
[CCing the Debian BTS] You didn't include it in your list, but we perhaps ought to consider bug 9228: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?func=detailitemitem_id=9228 Anyone know the history of $mheditor? Can we just remove the reference in the man page? i only checked

[Nmh-workers] Proposed solution to Debian Bug#143485

2005-08-25 Thread Harald Geyer
Hi! After discussing http://bugs.debian.org/143485 in detail a few month ago and after discussing whether this is a vfork() issue, I finally had the time to write a patch (attachment). Please have a look, whether this seems sane (at least it fixes the original problem) and commit it to CVS as you

Re: [Nmh-workers] outstanding patches

2005-05-27 Thread Harald Geyer
| Ok, then this should be changed too, in case anybody wants to keep | vfork(). Yes, that ought be changed, though in practice the one in question should not really matter a lot, as it only happens if the exec fails, which should ordinarily not happen. But, aside from the fprintf,

Re: [Nmh-workers] outstanding patches

2005-05-26 Thread Harald Geyer
| Obviously nmh does depend upon errno being unchanged, so it's the fault | of nmh itself not linux. That would be correct. In that case one might wonder though why the bug is only observed under linux? I don't see any reason why this bug should only be observable on linux other than

Re: [Nmh-workers] outstanding patches

2005-05-26 Thread Harald Geyer
| Hm, ok then this probably isn't that much of an issue as I thought before | Is fprintf(stderr, ...) ok? After all it should be unbuffered? No, stdio isn't OK, even if supposedly unbuffered. There's too much state and context kept in there. Even if it works on one implementation of

Re: [Nmh-workers] scan or show of UTF-encoded headers?

2005-02-14 Thread Harald Geyer
Paul Fox wrote: can nmh decode UTF or otherwise-encoded headers? it's not that Yes. See the decode function in the mh-format manual page. It has a few limitations however. It doesn't use iconv or similar to convert headers to the current encoding. So you need to use a

Re: [Nmh-workers] scan or show of UTF-encoded headers?

2005-02-14 Thread Harald Geyer
What do you consider a nice solution? I use the method as described by Oliver (actually that's the default of the debian package). It works satisfactory but unfortunately we have a wild mixture of latin1 and latin9 in europe (thanks to MS windows not being able or willing to adapt to

Re: [Nmh-workers] scan or show of UTF-encoded headers?

2005-02-14 Thread Harald Geyer
I guess it would be much easier und less prone to error to just implement transcoding of messages through iconv instead of trying to adapt the display on a per message basis. In general, you *can't* do a good job of using iconv to mash things between the various iso8859-* charsets.

Re: [Nmh-workers] refile Sometimes totally Shreds a Message

2005-02-14 Thread Harald Geyer
I use nmh-1.0.4 in FreeBSD UNIX and have noticed that the refile function occasionally eats a message. It moves it from one folder to another all right, but what ends up in the receiving folder is a file containing all 0xFF's. Sounds like it fails to open it without noticing or

Re: [Nmh-workers] Nmh status - working on nmh

2004-09-16 Thread Harald Geyer
let's pass the torch to someone else. It would really be nice to have something later than 1.04 included in Linux releases. Actually 1.1 is included in debian unstable and testing and will be part of the upcoming release in a few weeks. (Thanks to Nick for his patience with that no so easy to

[Nmh-workers] 'repl -format' to mime-messages

2004-09-15 Thread Harald Geyer
Hi! Is there any sensible way to make 'repl -format' only quote the text parts of a mime message? (It would be nice if it decoded them too.) BTW: What is the status of nmh development? There seems to be no cvs-activity for nearly a year. Is savannah still broken? (I'm asking because I have

Re: [Nmh-workers] 'repl -format' to mime-messages

2004-09-15 Thread Harald Geyer
Is there any sensible way to make 'repl -format' only quote the text parts of a mime message? (It would be nice if it decoded them too.) There isn't a sensible way. I use a wrapper script (around vi) as my message editor and the script includes the following: if [[ -n $editalt ]]; then