Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-04-10 Thread Joel Reicher
| Perhaps you are making a point about the way nmh generates message-ids? | Should the algorithm be smarter than it is for us to change the | default with a clear conscience? No, that's not it, the algorithm is fine (look at my message-id header, you'll see nothing there different

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:04:11 +1000 From:Joel Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nevertheless, I don't agree that the nmh algorithm is fine. On the | contrary, I think most of what you've said constitutes an argument in | favour of

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:38:15 +1000 From:Joel Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I was going to put it in the ChangeLog and give it a somewhat | prominent place in the 1.3 release announcement. I'm not sure I can convince myself that most

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-04-07 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:02:55 +1000 From:Joel Reicher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I get the feeling this might be catching many people, and my preference | would be to put -msgid in the defaults for send. I might too (see below for possibly

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-31 Thread Joel Reicher
I see a message-id header. The message-id header results from send: -msgid in my profile. I get the feeling this might be catching many people, and my preference would be to put -msgid in the defaults for send. I think it makes more sense for the software constructing the message to construct

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-31 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Neil, Besides, I've always found fcc useless. It doesn't expand local user names, e.g. `to: ralph' stays like that instead of becoming `to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's no message-id which is vital for referring someone back to an earlier email. I dcc myself and file that

[Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Joel Reicher
Hi all, Two things: 1) Some people have commented on the comp.mail.mh newsgroup that Bcc and Dcc headers should not be removed before Fcc is processed, so that the Fcc copy contains them. Since the default components has Fcc: +outbox in it I'm inclined to agree. Does anyone disagree?

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Paul, joel wrote: 1) Some people have commented on the comp.mail.mh newsgroup that Bcc and Dcc headers should not be removed before Fcc is processed, so that the Fcc copy contains them. Since the default components has Fcc: +outbox in it I'm inclined to agree. Does anyone disagree?

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Jerrad Pierce
Besides, I've always found fcc useless. It doesn't expand local user names, e.g. `to: ralph' stays like that instead of becoming `to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's no message-id which is vital for Erm, it's not at all useless, you're misusing it. Fcc is for filing a local copy, it expects a

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jerrad, Besides, I've always found fcc useless. It doesn't expand local user names, e.g. `to: ralph' stays like that instead of becoming `to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's no message-id which is vital for Erm, it's not at all useless, you're misusing it. Fcc is for filing a

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jerrad, Perhaps I wasn't clear. If I have Indeed. Actually, I was just being polite. My second message merely repeated the information that was in the first. The former isn't very helpful if I ever wish to dist or forw the email on. No message-id is a killer. Meh, it saves a

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Neil W Rickert
Ralph Corderoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mar 30, 2007: Agreed. Besides, I've always found fcc useless. It doesn't expand local user names, e.g. `to: ralph' stays like that instead of becoming `to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]', and there's no message-id which is vital for referring someone back to an

Re: [Nmh-workers] 1.3 release and Dcc/Bcc behaviour

2007-03-30 Thread Jerry Peek
I didn't read the comp.mail.mh article, so maybe I'm repeating what was said there. But whenever I use dcc:, I always end up saving those lines to a temporary file (or copying them with my mouse), then editing my copy to add that field to it -- so I can find out, later, who I sent the message