Message forwarded in error
Sorry about that forwarded message. I messed up trying out various combinations of - mime and -forw. Again my apologies
Re: nmh imap gpg
john doe wrote in <9019622b-d084-25ad-f574-c5a69be76...@mail.com>: |On 1/8/2020 4:19 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> john doe wrote in : |>|Hello all, and thank you for your answers. |>| |>|On 1/8/2020 3:07 PM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: |>|>> As far as I understand it, NMH can not be used directly with IMAP,so I |>|>> would like to use FDM for this. |>|> |>|> For those of us that didn't know, or have forgotten, FDM is a |>|> fetchmail(1)-alike. https://github.com/nicm/fdm#readme |>| |>|Is there any alternative to fdm for imap that works well with NMH? |> |> What do you mean by that? | |I'm planning to use nmh, which does not support the imap protocol. | |One way to use imap with nmh is to use fdm but other then that, I was |wondering what else could be used with nmh to access my e-mail using imap? That much i had understood. The question that crossed my mind was just what features etc. you need. For example, we cannot simply pass a mail to some consumer, and we do also not support the nmh storage format, so either of an intermediate MBOX or Maildir storage is required. But of course you can do things like s-nail -A my_account -Y 'file IMAP-ACCOUNT' \ -Y 'copy :n %' -Y quit || exit 1 to get new mail copied over to your local $MAIL, and the ||exit clause will become increasingly reliable. Anything better has to wait until after v15, which hopefully comes, somewhen. |Thanks for s-nail, 'mailx' could do what I want imap/smtp/gpg. Tja, thanks for the thanks, that mailx renaming will take some time. And gpg will not happen before, i hope this summer. And of course that has nothing to do with nmh integration then, you would need to compose and view messages from within the (then still pretty much restricted) MUA. Maybe funnily, just this day i have seen the first time a message generated by Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7 (on a FreeBSD list). I would expect the JMAP protocol to join mail and calendar and contacts under an umbrella protocol series, and thus turn IMAP into a vintage thing, maybe even fast. (And even though a new IMAP revision is to be expected this year, i think.) |John Doe --End of <9019622b-d084-25ad-f574-c5a69be76...@mail.com> --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Police Surveillance Tools from Special Services Group (fwd)
--- Begin Message --- Police Surveillance Tools from Special Services Group Special Services Group, a company that sells surveillance tools to the FBI, DEA, ICE, and other US government agencies, has had its secret sales brochure published. Motherboard received the brochure as part of a FOIA request to the Irvine Police Department in California. "The Tombstone Cam is our newest video concealment offering the ability to conduct remote surveillance operations from cemeteries," one section of the Black Book reads. The device can also capture audio, its battery can last for two days, and "the Tombstone Cam is fully portable and can be easily moved from location to location as necessary," the brochure adds. Another product is a video and audio capturing device that looks like an alarm clock, suitable for "hotel room stings," and other cameras are designed to appear like small tree trunks and rocks, the brochure reads. The "Shop-Vac Covert DVR Recording System" is essentially a camera and 1TB harddrive hidden inside a vacuum cleaner. "An AC power connector is available for long-term deployments, and DC power options can be connected for mobile deployments also," the brochure reads. The description doesn't say whether the vacuum cleaner itself works. [...] One of the company's "Rapid Vehicle Deployment Kits" includes a camera hidden inside a baby car seat. "The system is fully portable, so you are not restricted to the same drop car for each mission," the description adds. [...] The so-called "K-MIC In-mouth Microphone & Speaker Set" is a tiny Bluetooth device that sits on a user's teeth and allows them to "communicate hands-free in crowded, noisy surroundings" with "near-zero visual indications," the Black Book adds. Other products include more traditional surveillance cameras and lenses as well as tools for surreptitiously gaining entry to buildings. The "Phantom RFID Exploitation Toolkit" lets a user clone an access card or fob, and the so-called "Shadow" product can "covertly provide the user with PIN code to an alarm panel," the brochure reads. The Motherboard article also reprints the scary emails Motherboard received from Special Services Group, when asked for comment. Of course, Motherboard published the information anyway. URL: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/01/police_surveill.html --- End Message ---
Re: Forwarding html email
Hi Ken, > > Shouldn't he drop the -format in this case? > > Yeah, probably. Although ... that's not wonderful either. I'm open > to ideas of how we could we could do this better. Yes, I see what you mean. That forwards the whole email as the body of a new one. What Arthur's really after is storing the part of the email that's interesting, and then having it as the MIME attachment, possibly the only one, of a new email to send. With the Subject field being carried across too. We've noted before how 42 refers to email 42, but 42.2 doesn't mean part 2, nor 42.text/html all its text/html parts. forw -mime 42.text/html -- Cheers, Ralph.
Re: Forwarding html email
>> If you use dist(1) it might be closer to what you want. > >Arthur used to use dist IIRC, and moved to forw because of problems. >Shouldn't he drop the -format in this case? Yeah, probably. Although ... that's not wonderful either. I'm open to ideas of how we could we could do this better. --Ken
Re: Forwarding html email
Hi Ken, > If you use dist(1) it might be closer to what you want. Arthur used to use dist IIRC, and moved to forw because of problems. Shouldn't he drop the -format in this case? -- Cheers, Ralph.
Re: Forwarding html email
>forw: -mime -annotate -nodash -format -editor vi This is the problem. You can't have "-mime" and "-format". Well, you CAN, but it doesn't do what you want. They basically cancel each other out (like all nmh argument processing, the last argument wins). If you use -mime, when you forw(1) stuff it will end up with a mhbuild directive in the draft you need to process with the "mime" command. That will end up with the proper MIME encoding (well, it will be a message/rfc822, but inside of that the message will be correct). If you use -format, it gets processed with mhl, and the draft is treated as plain text (unless you mark it with a different MIME type manually). If you use dist(1) it might be closer to what you want. --Ken
Re: Forwarding html email
Original message: aalinovi:~$ mhlist -verbose msg part type/subtype size description 4 text/html 2813 charset="us-ascii" aalinovi:~$ Forwarded message: alinovi:~$ mhlist msg part type/subtype size description 112 text/plain3105 aalinovi:~$ Thank you, Arthur In message <20200110161503.cb87222...@orac.inputplus.co.uk>, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi aalinovi, > >> I receive an html email which when I read it looks fine. >> However, when I try to forward it, it is forwarded as plain text with >> all of the html coding visible: > >May we have the output of =E2=80=98mhlist -verbose ...=E2=80=99 run on bo= >th the original >email and the one that you forwarded to yourself that you think is >faulty. > >--=20 >Cheers, Ralph. >
Re: nmh imap gpg
On 1/8/2020 4:19 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > john doe wrote in : > |Hello all, and thank you for your answers. > | > |On 1/8/2020 3:07 PM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > |> Hi John, > |> > |>> As far as I understand it, NMH can not be used directly with IMAP,so I > |>> would like to use FDM for this. > |> > |> For those of us that didn't know, or have forgotten, FDM is a > |> fetchmail(1)-alike. https://github.com/nicm/fdm#readme > | > |Is there any alternative to fdm for imap that works well with NMH? > > What do you mean by that? I'm planning to use nmh, which does not support the imap protocol. One way to use imap with nmh is to use fdm but other then that, I was wondering what else could be used with nmh to access my e-mail using imap? Thanks for s-nail, 'mailx' could do what I want imap/smtp/gpg. -- John Doe
Re: Forwarding html email
Hi aalinovi, > I receive an html email which when I read it looks fine. > However, when I try to forward it, it is forwarded as plain text with > all of the html coding visible: May we have the output of ‘mhlist -verbose ...’ run on both the original email and the one that you forwarded to yourself that you think is faulty. -- Cheers, Ralph.
Forwarding html email
I receive an html email which when I read it looks fine. However, when I try to forward it, it is forwarded as plain text with all of the html coding visible: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/01/poli ce_surveill.html">Police Surveillance Tools from Special Services Group My ~/.mh_profile contains the line: forw: -mime -annotate -nodash -format -editor vi Thank you for any help.
