RE: [NMusers] unscientific poll

2008-12-04 Thread Eleveld, DJ
My guess is the low response is likely an effect of inexperienced and intermediate users remaining silent to allow the most informed users decide the outcome of the poll. This was a consideration for me, even though I eventually decided to participate as an intermediate user. Regular reading of a

[NMusers] higher AUC after bolus compared to infusion?

2008-12-04 Thread nele . plock
Dear all, I have trouble modeling some rat PK data obtained after intravenous dosing. I have dense data for two different doses, given either as bolus, half-hour or 3-hour infusion. We know that the compound has a large binding affinity to intracellular structures and therefore has a high

Re: [NMusers] higher AUC after bolus compared to infusion?

2008-12-04 Thread saik.urien.svp
Nele It is possible to simulate AUC_iv_bolus = 3*AUC_3h_inf This was done using the code below, assuming a saturation in both elimination and distribution in the peripheral compartment (similar to the pharmacokinetics of taxol) The problem is that the AUC_0.5h_inf is intermediate and closer to

Re: [NMusers] higher AUC after bolus compared to infusion?

2008-12-04 Thread MALAZ ABUTARIF
Dear, This can most likely be described by a model of non-instantaneous and potentially irreversible binding kinetics to the intracellular proteins/structures. With bolus, you see the drug in plasma (hence higher AUC) before it binds to the internal proteins irreversably. With infusions, more of

Re: [NMusers] Code for EHC

2008-12-04 Thread Alison Boeckmann
Dear Sam and Ayyappa, The postings that Sam mentioned are obsolete. The first of the model time examples (help mtime) suggests a better technique for modelling EHC using MTIME parameters, as follows: Enterohepatic Recycling This fragment of abbreviated code may be used to model EHC.

Re: [NMusers] Code for EHC

2008-12-04 Thread Sam Liao
Dear Alison: Thanks for let us know this new feature in nm 6. I have been working on EHC modeling for single dose as well as multiple dose pk data. I have some questions on how to use this new feature. How do we define the FLAG when we also have MTIME(3), MTIME(4), MTIME(5) and MTIME(6)? We

[NMusers] Lapacian estimation without second derivatives?

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Bergstrand
Dear NONMEM community, Due to a mistake on my part I recently executed a NONMEM job with the Laplacian estimation method and calculation of the second derivatives turned off ($ABBREVIATED DERIV2=NO). This is according to the NONMEM users guide and common sense about the estimation method an

RE: [NMusers] Lapacian estimation without second derivatives?

2008-12-04 Thread Matt Hutmacher
Martin, It has been a while, but my recollection is that NONMEM is computing the second derivatives numerically when you supply LAPLACE and $ABBREVIATED DERIV2=NO. I think NONMEM supplies this option automatically in just this case. You might test this by using the above with NONUMERICAL on

RE: [NMusers] Lapacian estimation without second derivatives?

2008-12-04 Thread Matt Hutmacher
Martin, I was just talking to Ken. And we thought that perhaps the report file would state that NUMERICAL was used in this case. You might look there as well. Cheers, Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Hutmacher Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008

Re: [NMusers] Code for EHC

2008-12-04 Thread Alison Boeckmann
Dear Sam and others, I prefer to be a lurker on this email list. I'd rather not be drawn into a lengthy discussion ...! To answer your question, it might look something like this: $PK (NON-EVENT) MTIME(1)=THETA(8) ; start of change due to meal #1 MTIME(2)=MTIME(1)+THETA(9) ; end

Re: [NMusers] Prednisone and Prednisolone PPK

2008-12-04 Thread Chandrasekhar Udata
Dear all, I am working on modelling prednisone and prednisolone PPK in humans given a PO dose of prednisone. Note that prednisone is converted to prednisolone during the first-pass and prednisolone is converted back to prednisone (reversible metabolism). I used a simple 2-cmt PK model (see