[ NNSquad ] Re: NY Times: Verizon offers system to improve P2P transfers

2008-03-14 Thread Frank A. Coluccio
Verizon continues to stand out from the pack in a growing number of new and interesting ways. Whether this reaching out to P2P users is legit, or involves hidden gotchas, remains to be seen. Although, if the abundance of bandwidth afforded by its FiOS offering is any indication of its

[ NNSquad ] Re: NY Times: Verizon offers system to improve P2P transfers

2008-03-14 Thread Kevin McArthur
Verizon does continue to set itself apart. The statement: Pasko stressed, however, that Verizon wants to work with P2P companies that are focusing on delivery of legitimate media, like Pando -- not systems where anyone can upload anything, which usually means lots of pirated material. does

[ NNSquad ] Re: NY Times: Verizon offers system to improve P2P transfers

2008-03-14 Thread Robert Oliver
Frank A. Coluccio wrote: Verizon continues to stand out from the pack in a growing number of new and interesting ways. Whether this reaching out to P2P users is legit, or involves hidden gotchas, remains to be seen. Although, if the abundance of bandwidth afforded by its FiOS offering is any

[ NNSquad ] Re: NY Times: Verizon offers system to improve P2P transfers

2008-03-14 Thread Kelly Setzer
Kevin McArthur wrote: Verizon does continue to set itself apart. The statement: Pasko stressed, however, that Verizon wants to work with P2P companies that are focusing on delivery of legitimate media, like Pando -- not systems where anyone can upload anything, which usually means lots of

[ NNSquad ] DNS Interception by ISPs (was Verizon P2P discussion)

2008-03-14 Thread Lauren Weinstein
OK, we need to get to the bottom of this. Last I heard, Verizon allowed subscribers to opt-out of their DNS redirection service through the rather cumbersome technique of manually changing client DNS settings. Can we confirm that this is no longer the case, and that regardless of client DNS

[ NNSquad ] Re: NY Times: Verizon offers system to improve P2P transfers

2008-03-14 Thread Nick Weaver
One other comment: This is interesting for a couple of factors: The files distributed are relatively few, so they should actually cache relatively well. And with FIOS, Verizon may have the same cost for upstream/downstream as everybody else, but a vastly cheaper local loop per bit. Thus P2P

[ NNSquad ] More info on ISP DNS redirections

2008-03-14 Thread Lauren Weinstein
I've received a number of replies to my request for more specific information regarding Verizon and Time Warner (RoadRunner) DNS redirections/diversions. Regarding Verizon (the forwarded message below best summarizes), it appears that while Verizon has apparently removed the redirection (to a

[ NNSquad ] Re: More info on ISP DNS redirections

2008-03-14 Thread Vint Cerf
It may be worse than that. If the diversion is really through fabricated DNS responses, applications such as email could be at risk. V - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org nnsquad@nnsquad.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[ NNSquad ] Re: More info on ISP DNS redirections

2008-03-14 Thread Lauren Weinstein
It may be worse than that. If the diversion is really through fabricated DNS responses, applications such as email could be at risk. V I agree. Fabricated DNS responses affecting various applications was one of the issues that was front and center with Site Finder, as we all remember, with