Re: NPW 2010 proposal

[Jonas Brømsø Nielsen]

Hello,

I actually vote for letting the annual indication go all together. We  
have proved that we can organize an event at least once a year.


So the suggested naming convention:

NPW::city

should even apply for Copenhagen, Olso, Stockholm, Riga and Talinn.

So we can have more NPWs in a year if we want to.

jonasbn

On 27/05/2009, at 14.13, Andrew Shitov wrote:

Let NPW::$year be the NPW that rotates yearly between nordic  
countries

and, say, NPW::Riga (or NPW::Baltic or NPW::Tallinn)


OK, I've got your point.

Any possible Baltic event can have NPW substring in its name only if
the event is the part of NPW. Otherwise it is just silly.

--
Andrew Shitov
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Re: NPW 2010 proposal

[Claes Jakobsson]

Hi,

On 15 maj 2009, at 11.02, Jonas Brømsø Nielsen wrote:

Hi Andrew,

I have heard of two other proposals.

- Göteborg in Sweden
- Reykjavik in Iceland
- and I am thinking about organizing something in Copenhagen in 2010


Actually Salve and I tried to persuade Panu Ervamaa (pnu) of  
Helsinki.pm to arrange it there next year.


As far as I know Reykjavik has not actually said anything. I belive it  
was brian d foy who wished it would be hosted there.



Nothing is settled yet though.

I am actually more keen on the idea of a Baltic Perl Workshop,  
traveling between the 3 countries. I am not saying that we will not  
promote it and a lot of people will probably attend.


I'll second that. Nordic Perl Workshop is as the name suggest  
primarily targeted at the Nordic countries and their locals as we have  
very much in common between us.


My primary objection to hosting it in Riga is that of the Baltic  
states are not part (yet) of the Nordic countries nor share our common  
ancestry or language (sorry for being slightly nationalistic). However  
given the poor state of the economy and government of Lithuania I  
wouldn't be surprised if they hand over their country to swedish banks  
real soon and when that happens I guess it's ok to go =)



From a historic perspective

NPW, started out as SPW (Scandinavian Perl Workshop), but the  
Helsinki.pm wanted to join (but never did). Anyway, we think we are  
too small a language group, so it was interesting for us to  
collaborate with Sweden and later Norway. This was from the  
beginning due to the proximity of our countries and relations  
through local Linux User Group (SSLUG), which used to be the largest  
in the world until the Brazillians discovered the Internet, Open  
Source and Orkut.


NPW was the first workshop to cross country borders, but we simply  
do this our of necessity and to attract the audience.


We do as such not have a board evaluating proposals, so nothing can  
stop anybody from organizing a NPW, so we might even have several in  
a year, the annual things is also pure coincidence.


The closets thing of a board we do have is the blessing of previous  
organizer group leaders - that being Jonas, Salve and me.


/claes

Re: NPW 2010 proposal

[Lars Thegler]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Shitov a...@shitov.ru wrote:
 I would like to propose to host next year's Nordic Perl Workshop in
 Riga, Latvia.

That's a fantastic idea, and I would very much like to come to Riga
for a Perl Workshop :)

But I disagree on the naming. At least to the locals, 'Nordic' refers
to a well-defined group of countries (see [1]). Something like 'Baltic
Perl Workshop' would be much better.

/Lars

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries

Re: NPW 2010 proposal

[Geir Aalberg]

On 15 May 2009, at 12:03 , Claes Jakobsson wrote:

My primary objection to hosting it in Riga is that of the Baltic  
states are not part (yet) of the Nordic countries nor share our  
common ancestry or language (sorry for being slightly nationalistic).


Not really true. Estonia has been under both Swedish and Danish rule,  
so has parts of Latvia. Estonian is closely related to Finnish, and  
the Baltic states also have close ties to the Nordic Council.


Anyway, the main point is not where the venue is, but which audience  
it's intended for and who is organizing it. Neil Bauman has arranged  
several Perl cruises, but nobody insisted on calling them Caribbean  
Perl Workshops.


-geir