notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-07-11 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:46:48 +0200, Daniel Schoepe wrote: > One problem is that maildir doesn't support tags, so we would have to > switch to a format that does or somehow store them in the maildir, in > which case we would also have to adapt offlineimap or a similar tool to > sync tags as well.

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-07-11 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:46:48 +0200, Daniel Schoepe daniel.scho...@googlemail.com wrote: One problem is that maildir doesn't support tags, so we would have to switch to a format that does or somehow store them in the maildir, in which case we would also have to adapt offlineimap or a similar

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Schoepe
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:22:24 +0200, Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de wrote: Support for tags is mentioned in the RFC for IMAP, but it's optional. As far as I know, must servers today support them though. I can't speak for Gmail, but all major servers, ie Cyrus, Dovecot, and even

notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-07-06 Thread Daniel Schoepe
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 20:31:03 +0200, Sander Boer wrote: > If IMAP supports tags, is that not a big deal ? > I mean, having a converging point for all tags, is that not like the holy > grail in this field ? One problem is that maildir doesn't support tags, so we would have to switch to a format

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2011-07-06 Thread Sander Boer
Dear Sebastian, If IMAP supports tags, is that not a big deal ? I mean, having a converging point for all tags, is that not like the holy grail in this field ? Obviously, there must be a caveat, you mentioned client-support, which is inconvenient, but of no long term consequence. Do you know

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2011-06-30 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:22:23 -0700, Carl Worth wrote: > First, it's important to understand that any friction here comes from > Gmail exposing its tags as folders, (which in turn could be the lack of > availability of a more tag-aware protocol than imap). Even risking to become a bit

notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-30 Thread Pieter Praet
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:19:44 -0600, Mark Anderson wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:54:40 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins finestructure.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:21:11 -0600, Mark Anderson > > wrote: > > > I personally prefer --output=files remain as it was, with one file per > > >

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-30 Thread Pieter Praet
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:19:44 -0600, Mark Anderson ma.sk...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:54:40 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:21:11 -0600, Mark Anderson ma.sk...@gmail.com wrote: I personally prefer --output=files remain

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-30 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:22:23 -0700, Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org wrote: First, it's important to understand that any friction here comes from Gmail exposing its tags as folders, (which in turn could be the lack of availability of a more tag-aware protocol than imap). Even risking to become a

notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Anderson
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:54:40 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:21:11 -0600, Mark Anderson > wrote: > > I personally prefer --output=files remain as it was, with one file per > > mail (even though I submitted the patch to change it). I suggest that > > we could add

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2011-06-29 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:53:30 -0700, Carl Worth wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:38:30 -0600, Mark Anderson > wrote: > > I had briefly considered adding another output format "file", just to get a > > single file for each message in the db, but the file/files distinction > > feels a bit niggling.

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2011-06-29 Thread Jameson Graef Rollins
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:21:11 -0600, Mark Anderson wrote: > I personally prefer --output=files remain as it was, with one file per > mail (even though I submitted the patch to change it). I suggest that > we could add another format to supply all files (perhaps > --output=allfiles, or

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2011-06-29 Thread Sander Boer
Carl Worth writes:> [snip] > First, it's important to understand that any friction here comes from > Gmail exposing its tags as folders, (which in turn could be the lack of > availability of a more tag-aware protocol than imap). > I agree that this is the key issue here. I was hoping that

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:53:30 -0700, Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:38:30 -0600, Mark Anderson ma.sk...@gmail.com wrote: I had briefly considered adding another output format file, just to get a single file for each message in the db, but the file/files distinction

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Anderson
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:54:40 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:21:11 -0600, Mark Anderson ma.sk...@gmail.com wrote: I personally prefer --output=files remain as it was, with one file per mail (even though I submitted the patch to change

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2011-06-28 Thread Carl Worth
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:38:30 -0600, Mark Anderson wrote: > I had briefly considered adding another output format "file", just to get a > single file for each message in the db, but the file/files distinction > feels a bit niggling. Perhaps it should be changed to "files" and > "filelists" or

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2011-06-28 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:43:52 +0200, "Sander Boer" wrote: > > Carl Worth writes:> > I was hoping that google somehow was able to expose the tags in the "All > Mail" folder, like the headers that are gmail specific: X-pstn-nxpr and > X-pstn-nxp (which contains a > hash) for instance. I don't

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2011-06-28 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:43:52 +0200, "Sander Boer" wrote: > Carl Worth writes:> > > > > Hopefully it's clear enough that you could do the above in a script that > > loops over all of your existing tags. > > > > And if you were doing a one-time switch from Gmail to notmuch that would > > be all

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2011-06-28 Thread Carl Worth
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:43:41 +0200, Sander Boer wrote: > For instance, is this a possibility sync gmail tags with notmuch tags ? > As fas as I am aware Gmail exposes its tags through imap folders, I am > not too thrilled about the mixing of paradigms (folders vs tags) and it > would be great if

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-28 Thread Carl Worth
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:43:41 +0200, Sander Boer sanderb...@mauc.nl wrote: For instance, is this a possibility sync gmail tags with notmuch tags ? As fas as I am aware Gmail exposes its tags through imap folders, I am not too thrilled about the mixing of paradigms (folders vs tags) and it would

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-28 Thread Sander Boer
Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org writes: [snip] First, it's important to understand that any friction here comes from Gmail exposing its tags as folders, (which in turn could be the lack of availability of a more tag-aware protocol than imap). I agree that this is the key issue here. I was

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:43:52 +0200, Sander Boer sanb...@gmail.com wrote: Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org writes: Hopefully it's clear enough that you could do the above in a script that loops over all of your existing tags. And if you were doing a one-time switch from Gmail to notmuch

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Anderson
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:43:52 +0200, Sander Boer sanb...@gmail.com wrote: Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org writes: I was hoping that google somehow was able to expose the tags in the All Mail folder, like the headers that are gmail specific: X-pstn-nxpr and X-pstn-nxp (which contains a hash)

Re: notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-28 Thread Carl Worth
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:38:30 -0600, Mark Anderson ma.sk...@gmail.com wrote: I had briefly considered adding another output format file, just to get a single file for each message in the db, but the file/files distinction feels a bit niggling. Perhaps it should be changed to files and

notmuch Digest, Vol 20, Issue 57

2011-06-27 Thread Sander Boer
Hi all, I was wondering what a "best practice" would be in dealing with a gmail account and notmuch ? For instance, is this a possibility sync gmail tags with notmuch tags ? As fas as I am aware Gmail exposes its tags through imap folders, I am not too thrilled about the mixing of paradigms