[NSP] Re: sociology of NSP

2008-08-27 Thread Julia . Say
On 27 Aug 2008, Chris O. wrote: Yes - we have yet to explain how the Cloughs came by their instruments. How could Henry (I) afford a set of Reid pastoral pipes, for example At the time of the Napoleonic wars, many of the miners had enlisted, and the mineowners were being forced

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
Imagine if Pavarotti had thrown in the odd yodel in Nessun Dorma, and you'll get the idea! grin Ah yes, but no one claims that Pavarotti's is the only way to sing - or even to sing Nessun Dorma. My personal pet hates are excessive and misplaced vibrato, conjectural intonation and pomposity. In

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
tries to get the e hole to sound in tune...) You'll be lucky ;-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
maybe we should have a society red nose for such players :) Can I put my name down now. Count me in To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
There were many Folk clubs during the 60's - 80's including a few excellent traditional clubs (I ran one - and played my pipes there Which one was that? I was quite active on the folk scene in Liverpool in the mid-60s but had only ever encountered nsp on record (played by colin ross

[NSP] Re: It's not the leaving of Liverpool that grieves me -- quite the opposite!

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
We were quite happy to get rid of him I reckon to this day he thinks he's a great musician and doesn't realise that he wasn't being used by the other beatles as comic relief (the perfect voice for a little help from my friends). Good drummer, though, and made a serious contribution there. Oops,

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread colin
Mainly at Adrian House in Aigburth but that was in the 80's and I didn't start on the pipes until 1972 although before that we spent several years at the Lamb Hotel in Wavertree (upstairs, huge cavern of a room with some buffalo horns over the side stage - coal fires and freezing cold in the

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread Ormston, Chris
Me too! Used to go to the Liverpool Trad Club at the Cross Keys in the early 80s, and the Baltic Fleet, the Grapes on Matthew Street, and the shorter-lived Brook House Club, and made occasional forays to the Bothy in Southport. I mostly played in sessions though at the Cracke, the Nelson on

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread Christopher.Birch
Ah, I left in 1968 and have not been back much since. Coach House and Jim Peden's were main venues. Only played guitar (and just started fiddle when I left) in those days, so sessions were not much of an option - I didn't want to be yet another annoying thrasher, even if I could get my head

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Wright Allan
Tell me about it! I've tried everything from more pressure to less pressure - even a bit of swearing and, very nearly, a kick but no, it won't have it - it just wants to be flat and that's all there is to it. Does anyone have a solution (other than the kicking option, which I'm

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread colin
Jim and Shirley were usually found at Gregson's Well on a Tuesday (been there, sung there) along with John ? (his nickname was Yogi) who formed the Carlton three. Great traditional performers although I haven't seen them for years (if they are still alive, of course). There was, at that time,

[NSP] Re: Bellingham show

2008-08-27 Thread Julia . Say
On 27 Aug 2008, JuliaSay wrote: I have just been informed that Bellingham Show has been cancelled. The field is waterlogged, and it's still raining there. They could not leave a decision any longer. Further to which, I had a phone call from Tommy Breckons offering the use of the Youth

[NSP] Re: the cry of the curlew, the wind in the reeds...

2008-08-27 Thread Ian Lawther
colin wrote: huge cavern of a room Were all music clubs in Liverpool Caverns? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Tuning chanter notes

2008-08-27 Thread Jack Rawlins
I saw the post for raising the pitch of a note that is flat on a chanter. How can you lower the pitch of a sharp note. The rest of the chanter is pretty well in tune. Thanks Jack Rawlins - USA To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Julia . Say
On 27 Aug 2008, Wright Allan wrote: Does anyone have a solution (other than the kicking option, which I'm considering) Send it back to the maker and tell him / her to put it right. If this doesn't work find another maker who *can* fix it for you - or reject the pipes as unplayable and

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread Wright Allan
Not a bad idea, the problem I've got though is I've only just realised and it's been around 9 months. I know it's stupid, but I've had absolute pitch ever since I was a kid, which means that developing relative pitch was something I only recently realised the importance of (shameful thing

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread colin
Nope. My pipes were quite a bit out and it took me around 15 years or more to realise that they needed some work doing on them as I just couldn't get some of the notes to sound in tune regardless of pressing the bag harder, pressing really hard on the holes, blowing fag smoke down the chanter

[NSP] re-Bellingham show

2008-08-27 Thread Richard York
.. they had no choytce, as it were...? With solemn apologies. Richard On 27 Aug 2008, JuliaSay wrote: I have just been informed that Bellingham Show has been cancelled. The field is waterlogged, and it's still raining there. They could not leave a decision any longer. To

[NSP] Re: More choyting!

2008-08-27 Thread BRIMOR
Allan, As you have noticed, the small pipes are not tuned to a tempered scale and the E is frequently deliberately tuned so that it is correct when playing in A major and a minor i.e. a perfect fifth with the A (as Colin already mentioned). This means that it is not going to