[NSP] Re: Trad.nsp vs Dartmouth

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
a couple of the best plpers are trying to make people understand how to play their instrument properly. No prizes for identifying the following quote: She is a very good teacher, demanding accurate staccato playing. C To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
I'm risking a lot here I know but who actually decided how the pipes should be played? Good question! C To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Well said, Anthony! The fact that you can play should be obvious to anyone who doesn't have their ego where their ears should be. C -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:00 AM To:

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
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[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a proper e-mail: __ From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:15 AM To: 'Dave S'; Inky- Adrian Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2011-06-17 Thread Tim Rolls
On 17 Jun 2011, at 01:13, cwhill wrote: I've often heard it said that Beethoven wouldn't recognise his own works if he were to hear them played now. Well that's because he was deaf... Tim To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Christopher.Birch
if he were to hear them played now. Well that's because he was deaf... In that case he wouldn't hear them at all, but I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now. He's been decomposing ever since according to a very old joke. Praps that could

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Dave S
OK OK I see I just got Visa'd ciao On 6/17/2011 10:17 AM, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Bugger! Dartmouth doesn't like rich text. Here's a proper e-mail: __ From: BIRCH Christopher (DGT) Sent: Friday, June 17,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 09:24, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: I reckon being dead is an even greater impediment to hearing them played now. Well, if he hadn't been the late Beethoven, how could he have composed the Late Quartets? Francis To get on or off this list see list information

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Matt Seattle
Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures.. As for 'can you play' - in one sense, of course Anthony can

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
Is talking good sense traditional? -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Seattle Sent: 17 June 2011 10:49 To: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread cwhill
Ok, bad choice of composer! He was, however, only deaf in later life. Still good excuse for some bad jokes :) It was a genuine question though. If there is a correct was to play, that must have been decided at sometime by someone. I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 12:39, cwhill wrote: I'm thinking here of the closed fingering techniques, one finger off at a time, no choyting etc. Hi Colin and others, The closed-fingering technique derives much more from the nature of the instrument rather than any opinions about style. Since the

[NSP] Tradition

2011-06-17 Thread Dru Brooke-Taylor
Has it occurred to anyone that once a tradition has started to get self conscious about it's identity, it's got problems? A tradition that is still fully living as a tradition, is just 'how things are', without needing to ask itself what is traditional and what isn't. It even decides what it

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Yes! Richard. On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures..

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Yes! Richard On 17/06/2011 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Lotsa fun here - Adrian's inspired '6 classes' made me laugh out loud As for 'tradition', it is a neutral, value-free term, there are good traditions and bad - human sacrifice was traditionally practised in some cultures..

[NSP] Oops

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Sorry, Julia, Sorry - I got in late yesterday, read a few, but hadn't seen that you'd already done this one! Richard. The oil of the little known Ont Rhubbledwarterz tree may be suggested. Richard By the way, does anyone have any good ideas about the right kind of oil to

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Richard York
Hello Francis, Quite so, but, playing devil's advocate for a minute, (and loving tradition except where it becomes tribal), does the fact that we can play staccato and 99% of other pipes can't, mean it's all we should do? The harpsichord, after all, could only really play staccato or slightly

[NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions

2011-06-17 Thread Marianne Hall
it's its. Define. Get's me s'o cross. Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:31:57 +0200 To: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu CC: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: david...@pt.lu Subject: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions OK OK I see I just got Visa'd ciao On

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Julia Say
Adrian - if you wish to insult people, please do so offlist. The rest of us (I hope I can safely generalise here) find it embarrassing. Anyone who wishes to contact me, please do so offlist for a while. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread chris
Since the NSP chanter has a stopped end, there would be little point in adopting anything other than this fingering style, which allows separate notes with (usually) a distinguishable silence between each. This is something that no other bagpipe can do. In fact it would be difficult to think

[NSP] arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Inky- Adrian
I was responding to this post. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kyle Eckmann [1]eckmanncustomt...@hotmail.com Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [NSP] Billy Pigg To: [2]inkyadr...@googlemail.com Hello everyone, I've made several requests over the last

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
I have received no emails via the list from Kyle Eckmann, who doesn't seem to be on it. Why would he ask you to be removed from a list which you don't administer? I think you have been wound up -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On

[NSP] Re: arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread smallpipes
I am afraid that it is a classic schoolboy error to reply on list to an off list message. I have seen this a lot on other lists and it is often a source of rancour. If you look at the heading of the offending email it is clear that was sent only to inky Mike Quoting Gibbons, John

[NSP] Re: Arrogant

2011-06-17 Thread wayne cripps
Kyle was on the list - he signed up a couple of years ago. Now he is off. If anyone else wants to leave the list send 'em to me. Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Richard, I think we pretty much agree. Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner? (Who, indeed would want to play RH in any manner whatsoever, some might interject.) However it was composed by a significant piper who happened to be the official piper to

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:14, ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: The Uilleann pipe chanter can be, and often is, played closed, by resting the chanter on the knee. It's possible, but more difficult, to get just as clean, detatched playing as with nsp. However this isn't seen as a fundamental

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread barry07
Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: Hello Richard, I think we pretty much agree. Who, for example, would want to play Rothbury Hills in a staccato manner? Detached playing is not necessarily staccato. When the notes are long, the spaces seem even shorter. (Who, indeed

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Dave S
Love it -- copulating skeletons eh bien 'enri c'est formidable Thanks for that Barry cheers Dave S On 6/17/2011 10:44 PM, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: Quoting Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com: Ah. harpsichord duets. The sound of skeletons copulating on a corrugated tin roof.

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
On 17 Jun 2011, at 21:44, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: The sound of skeletons copulating on a corrugated tin roof. Rattling the parrot's cage with a toasting fork is another. What a good thing nobody would ever say anything so cruel about our magnificent instrument. Positive remarks only,

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread Francis Wood
Positive remarks only, about it's neatness of execution. When I said it's, I hope it's obvious that its real meaning was its. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

2011-06-17 Thread cwhill
I do have a set of UPs (nasty cheap ones which I bought reasonably as they had been over 5 years on the shop shelf and nobody knew anything about them (yes, from Hobgoblin) - no regulators) but they still weigh a ton. The fingering chart I managed to find may give you an idea

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread barry07
Quoting smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk: Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the sound of one)? Yes, I can. As I remember, to my ears it sounded rather like a harmonium. Barry To get on

[NSP] Re: UP open/closed tuning

2011-06-17 Thread Gibbons, John
Francis, I think the tuning of modern UP is optimised when they're played closed. If the chanter's played open, it drinks more air, and plays sharper. Johnny Doran played off the knee a lot, and when Willie Clancy 1st heard him, he thought he was out of tune - a heresy which he repented in

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread John Dally
Robbie Greensit, wasn't it? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, [1]barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: Quoting [2]smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk: Can anyone remember which famous smallpiper once fitted a regulator to a set of smallpipes and reinvented the melodian (or at least the

[NSP] Re: Deaf, dead OR just bemused

2011-06-17 Thread inky-adrian
I did play the NSPs with regulators and won in the other category, not trad. NSPing. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html