[NSP] Mistakes in public perfomance

2008-09-30 Thread John_Dally
   All music, because it is art, is a gift.  The generosity with which the
   gift is given and received is often more important than the technical
   skill through which it is given.  Some of the most moving performances
   I've had the pleasure of experiencing have been from artists who will
   never adorn their living rooms with trophies or be acknowledged in the
   pages of society journals.  Likewise, a technically perfect performance
   can occaissionally feel selfish and shallow.  These comments are
   general and apply to music in general.  Music lives in the moment, and
   to languish over a poor performance, my own or anyone else's, or
   otherwise to puff up over a successful outing, these reactions both
   miss the point.  Just about any performance, private or public, can be
   turned into torture by negativity.  A positive attitude will make any
   opportunity to play or listen a much more enjoyable and rewarding
   experience for everyone.
   To paraphrase Miles Davis (I think): don't worry about mistakes...there
   are none.
   John
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[NSP] Re: Mistakes in public perfomance

2008-09-30 Thread Gibbons, John
Back to those comments of Tom Clough's that resurfaced in the great choyting 
debate.

"I could sit hours and hear the worst piper that ever played, if 
there is such a thing as a poor Northumbrian small piper. Imagination 
has always played a big part in my playing and listening, and it's 
wonderful what can be gleaned from any sort of a piper. It's not 
really what he does, but what he tries to do; and that little bit of 
something adds further to your stock of knowledge if you can manage 
what he tried to do. That proves to me that there's not a piping 
failure, when the piper is doing his best, as the listener may be 
quick to pick up what the piper just misses. That´s been a life long 
practice, and I've learned clever things that way from what a lot 
have termed mediocrity, but not when it is polished up and finished 
properly."

and

"the true art of piping is to create music..It stands to reason 
that if two performers of equal ability play, but one instrument is 
much more musical than the other, then there is only one just cause, 
as it is musical effect that will always determine".

Musical feeling is as important as technique. 

John



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   All music, because it is art, is a gift.  The generosity with which the
   gift is given and received is often more important than the technical
   skill through which it is given.  Some of the most moving performances
   I've had the pleasure of experiencing have been from artists who will
   never adorn their living rooms with trophies or be acknowledged in the
   pages of society journals.  Likewise, a technically perfect performance
   can occaissionally feel selfish and shallow.  These comments are
   general and apply to music in general.  Music lives in the moment, and
   to languish over a poor performance, my own or anyone else's, or
   otherwise to puff up over a successful outing, these reactions both
   miss the point.  Just about any performance, private or public, can be
   turned into torture by negativity.  A positive attitude will make any
   opportunity to play or listen a much more enjoyable and rewarding
   experience for everyone.
   To paraphrase Miles Davis (I think): don't worry about mistakes...there
   are none.
   John
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[NSP] Re: Mistakes in public perfomance

2008-09-30 Thread Helen Capes
LOVELY comment John. Thanks. I needed that encouragement.I found the 
choyting debate hard going.

Helen


  All music, because it is art, is a gift.  The generosity with which the
  gift is given and received is often more important than the technical
  skill through which it is given. 




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[NSP] Re: Mistakes in public perfomance

2008-09-30 Thread Srahmarks
   I have to agree with Helen.  John's is the only recent e-mail that has
   struck a chord with me too!

   Sarah

   In a message dated 30/09/2008 20:24:55 GMT Standard Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 LOVELY comment John. Thanks. I needed that encouragement.I found the
 choyting debate hard going.
 Helen
 >   All music, because it is art, is a gift.  The generosity with
 which the
 >   gift is given and received is often more important than the
 technical
 >   skill through which it is given.
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[NSP] John's Miles Davis Quote

2008-09-30 Thread Paul Rhodes
   Hi All,

   Just to add another couple of comments from a jazz musician friend of
   mine, which build nicely on John's Miles Davis quote:

   'You are never more than a semitone away from the right note.' and,

   'There is no such thing as wrong notes, just poor choices.'

   These two statements have given me comfort many times on stage as I
   have scrabbled around the fretboard, or attempted to uncover the holes
   in the right order (with, of course, brief closure in between).

   All the best,

   Paul
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[NSP] Re: John's Miles Davis Quote

2008-09-30 Thread Chris Ormston
Yeah but we're not talking about jazz here.  Stepping into uncharted (for
me) waters, jazz improvisation is all about working within chord structures,
whereas Northumbrian piping has more to do with melodic sequences, using a
drone rather than a chord sequence as the anchor, so mistakes are more
noticeable.

Mistakes? We all make them - well at least I do! It's a risk of trying to
put spontaneity into performance. Informal recordings of Billy Pigg were
full of (somewhat consistent) mistakes yet teach us a lot about using
vibrato, subtle pressure changes, and expression.

As for choyting etc, it's the gold standard to learn to play without it,
then choose to include it later if you wish to.  I'm not aware of anyone
who's succeeded the other way round.  

Tom Clough IV was of the opinion that choyters were those who were unable to
master closed fingering - I'm inclined to agree!  That's not to say it's
banned, but rather that there are more effective ways of showing the
superlatives of Northumberland small pipes.

Chris




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From: Paul Rhodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 30 September 2008 22:01
To: Dartmouth NSP
Subject: [NSP] John's Miles Davis Quote

   Hi All,

   Just to add another couple of comments from a jazz musician friend of
   mine, which build nicely on John's Miles Davis quote:

   'You are never more than a semitone away from the right note.' and,

   'There is no such thing as wrong notes, just poor choices.'

   These two statements have given me comfort many times on stage as I
   have scrabbled around the fretboard, or attempted to uncover the holes
   in the right order (with, of course, brief closure in between).

   All the best,

   Paul
 __

   Win -L-3000 to spend on whatever you want at Uni! [1]Click here to WIN!
   --

References

   1. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354032/direct/01/


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