[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Gibbons, John
Why has this rant thread gone so quiet all last week? What makes a tune sound like a rant, rather than a reel or hornpipe? If I take a (4 in a bar) hornpipe without triplets, speed it up a bit, but not as much as a reel, smooth out the dotting a bit, and emphasise the odd beats at the expense of

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Francis Wood
On 11 Jul 2011, at 13:05, Gibbons, John wrote: Are there any essential stylistic features that this attempt at a description misses? Wiktionary helpfully gives: From Dutch ranten, randen (“talk nonsense, rave”). Can anybody help to clarify the difference between a Rant and a Rave? Or at

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Gibbons, John
Tim has asked the right question - What is the right way of playing a tune, so that it is rantable by a dancer? Can you clarify this, Anthony? John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Rolls Sent: 11 July 2011 13:58

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Anthony Robb
Hello John I think that's fairly close. It is possible to do rants steps to reels, polkas and even jigs but in the Northumbrian sense it is a subtle up-tempo near hornpipe that really does help you to lift your feet off the ground and move rhythmically around the floor for long

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Julia Say
On 11 Jul 2011, Francis Wood wrote: Wiktionary helpfully gives: From Dutch ranten, randen (talk nonsense, rave). Well, there you are then. Some might say that covers many posts! Can anybody help to clarify the difference between a Rant and a Rave? PA and flashing lights? E? Or at

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread CalecM
Having danced for years, and played for dancing (albeit in California) perhaps I can help. First, you do need to see the rant step to understand it. That said, the easiest way to learn the step is to do it to the rhythm Potato chips, potato chips. Yes, I know you call them

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Rolls
rant. Old Eng. 17th-cent. dance of the jig variety. It originated in Scotland and N. England. Four examples occur in Playford's The Dancing Master (1657 and 1665 revisions). The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music | 1996 Any advance on Playford? Smith's New Rant (What happened to the old one?)

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread John Dally
As just a side bar to this duscussion of ranting: an interesting thing happened to me yesterday. I was at the Skagit Valley Highland Games to participate in a SSP and Border pipe talent show for lack of a better term. Kat Eggleston and I played a set of Lowland tunes in a guitar/BP

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Dave S
Etymology+Origin of rant (verb) 1598, from Du. randten talk foolishly, rave, of unknown origin (cf. Ger. rantzen to frolic, spring about). The noun is first attested 1649, from the verb. Ranters antinomian sect which arose in England c.1645 is attested from 1651; applied 1823 to early

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Anthony Robb
On Mon, 11/7/11, cal...@aol.com cal...@aol.com wrote: All dancers really need is a strong down beat...Never really had a dancer say, I can't dance this dance to that tune. Hello Alec I think the point here is not what can be danced to such and such a tune but which style of

[NSP] Re: Rants again

2011-07-11 Thread Thomas Green
On 11 Jul 2011, at 20:06, Dave S wrote: Etymology+Origin of rant (verb) 1598, from Du. randten talk foolishly, rave, of unknown origin (cf. Ger. rantzen to frolic, spring about). The noun is first attested 1649, from the verb. Ranters antinomian sect which