By 'eck!!
Just another angle - music is an expression of the human
condition isn't it? Am I right in thinking that we are the only
species on the planet capable of conciously composing music,
creating the tools to play it and performing it purely to
provoke an emotional response?
In the
Here's a wild idea: is it possible to get KT on this list? I would
love to hear her opinion...
cheers;
Miguel
2006/5/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Steve,
> You said "We now condemn "choyting" but it is only wth the advent of the
> millenium that we were told we were doing wrong!
Hi Sam,
As a player of several classical and folk instruments, for many of which I
also compose in what many people might consider not the "strictly traditional
style" for a given instrument - I really appreciated your common sense, broad
minded comments.
Sheila
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To get on or off this
I'm a fairly experienced musician but as a newcomer to the piping world, I'm
just beginning to learn the technical and musical aspects of NSP and
Uilleann pipes. There is a similar, parallel discussion taking place on the
Chiff and Fipple forum regarding regional and social influences in Uilleann
p
Just a couple of lines following on from a PM I got which put this into a
better perspective for me. I hope the originator doesn't mind.
Perhaps we are discussing the wrong aspect here.
Maybe it is the way it is described that matters.
"Traditional piping" or "modern piping" both have a place as ma
Steve,
You said "We now condemn "choyting" but it is only wth the advent of the
millenium that we were told we were doing wrong!"
Well, only then did we learn the word for it, but I think the idea
"staccato=good, slurred=bad" was fairly well established, with some stylistic
variants, more
I write here from a lengthy observation of the Northumbrian piping world and
its growing pains over the last 32 years. My interest began in the early
1970's.Billy Pigg was 4 years dead.Jack Armstrong was unable to play through
ill health.The 3 shepherds were exactly that, although much appreciat
Hello Ed and welcome to the forum. Like you, I am flutes first. Let's take
those as an example then.
Among my collection are flutes from about 1780. Some with one key, and some
with lots of keys (Boehm). Some are wooden and some are metal. Some are
transitional between the old simple s
People do love a bit of a Flame War, don't they?
The NSP list came to life these few days. Keep it up!
Miguel
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Unlike Colin Hill, I first heard the pipes only a few years ago, when I went
to a concert given locally (that is, in remotest Lincolnshire) by students on
the traditional music course at Northumbria University. One of my Sixth
Form students had got a place on the course, and I went to see what s
Is the tradition of the NPS tied up only in the virtuoso solo playing
of a very limited number of recorded pieces
or is it also in the evolution of the musical repetoire and the
individual interpretation of that music
Id be very interested to hear from anyone who could definatively
outline
I first heard the pipes on the TV. It was back in 1968 and was Billy Pigg
playing Bill Charlton's Fancy on the Corries programme. I was familiar with
the Irish pipes but this was something else.
I got my own in 1972 and still can't play them (well, not compared to most
of you on this list anyway) b
Hear, Hear! The help I have received from so many veteran NSP players the
last week or so over the squeaking low E key speaks volumes on the intrinsic
altruism of this group of passionate musicians. This week the lower keyed
notes are now playing with hardly any squeaks! Again, thanks to all for y
Hi all small (and tall) pipers,
For a long time you don't get any mails on the list and all of a sudden many
opinions of what is traditional music. Many very experienced pipers will know.
Here in Holland there was nobody either to learn from how the music should
sound. But it was never a big pr
Simon James wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> "Traditionally" the word is "realise"...
>
> Simon
>
Only in the French tradition, and that's long before
NSP were developed .
My trusty Chambers lists the "ize" variant first, and I'll
take Scottish English over English English any time .. :-)
- Jim
The more we have in common, the more we believe something to be important,
the more we have reasons to disagree. I am reminded of an Emo Phillip's
joke:
I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge,
about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!"
"W
I would just give this one bit of encouragement to Edward.
The NSP are more than just an instrument. The very fact that we have to put
up with squeaking reed, humidity changes and the rest while trying to keep
hold of the "greasy pig", doing several things with both arms while trying
to finger the
Hmmm...
"Traditionally" the word is "realise"...
Simon
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From: Jim Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 May 2006 16:35
To: Ian Lawther
Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [NSP] Re: Tradition etc
Ian Lawther wrote:
> Lets not forget that the greatest piping tradit
Ian Lawther wrote:
> Lets not forget that the greatest piping tradition of all is arguing over
> style
>
> Sorry that should be
> Lets not forget that the greatest piping
> tradition of all is arguingover style
> ! ! ! !
Lets not forget that the greatest piping tradition of all is arguing over
style
Sorry that should be
Lets not forget that the greatest piping
tradition of all is arguingover style
! ! ! !( I prefer a more staccato styl
Well Ed - there you have it, a simple flame war about a critique,
unusual as it is (lol) got more mail in 2 days than there has been for
months.
It did, however encourage lurkers to come on line -- so it served a
useful purpose as well -- one the other hand why did said lurker not ask
online fo
Hi Edward and everyone,
I'm glad to say that - mercifully - this is not, in my experience, at all
typical. Go ahead with the purchase and good luck!
chris
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From: Edward Bradburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:39 AM
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subje
Edward,
The reason this argument got so heated is for the best of reasons - most
people involved care about the music.
Some because they like a good scrap - Northumberland is on the Borders
after all - but most opinions expressed have concerned the music, and
what is a good style on NSP.
But if yo
Paul,
Yours have been some of the more considered replies to my views; I agree
calling her a silly name wasn't respectful.
But one message since has called traditionalists Nazi, so maybe
disrespect is ok after all.
But I do care about the music, as you do, and I do feel that recordings
like that
He didn't usually start too fast!
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Subject: [NSP] Re: Penguin Cafe Choyting
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Hi Everyone,
I'm a non-NSP player who is considering buying NSPs and have been
lurking on the list for a while now to learn about them. I currently
play both classical and irish flute (first for 20+ years, second for
3+) and am interested in learning pipes of one kind or another in order
to increa
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Yup, why limit the instrument?
What's the "proper" way to play the fiddle/violin? Fritz kreisler, andrew
manze, grappelly, clarence gatemouth brown, shlomo minz, martin hayes, harry
cox?
I have my preferences among this handful (and kreisler is not one of them).
Chirs
P.s. all the members of Ap
Hi
I've been reading the current discussion about tradition with interest. It
seems to me that tradition is an organic concept which serves a culture for
it's own needs. It provides collective cultural security and identity.
However, it is never fixed, but changes with successive generations, a
Well said, Mr Liestman!
c
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From: John Liestman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:21 PM
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Subject: [NSP] Re: Penguin Cafe Choyting
No more than newcomers to guitar assume Eric Clapton is how a guitar sho
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