[NSP] Re: Traditional & Classical etc.

2006-11-02 Thread Philip Gruar
Matt said >(sorry, I don't know him well enough to call him Max) I don't know him either - but he's often called Max (publicly - e.g. on the Radio) and it's easier than writing Maxwell-Davies! Apologies (a) if it looks like name-dropping and (b) if it being disrespectful to Sir Peter Maxwell-D

[NSP] Re: Traditional & Classical etc.

2006-11-02 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Matt wrote: I didn't hear the Maxwell-Davies > piece (sorry, I don't know him well enough to call him Max). > Well several of us are busy insulting him (with the exception of Ina) so why the problem with familiarity? :-)) Richard To get on or off this list see list information at http://www

[NSP] Re: Traditional & Classical etc.

2006-11-02 Thread Simon Knight
I think there is a problem with using the pipes in a classical setting - they are so easily overpowered as demonstrated by Ketteltoft Inn. That doesn't mean a composer can't work with them but it will take a great deal of knowledge of the instrument and sensitivity. Modern orchestral wind instrume

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Chris Ormston
Philip Gruar said "Bonny Pit Laddie" etc. Now THAT'S real NSP playing. Wonderful, Chris! but please don't totally rubbish Max and the competence, knowledge or integrity of other ways of using the instrument. Having sais that, of course, maybe it is a necessary part of being a true tradition-bea

[NSP] Re: Traditional & Classical etc.

2006-11-02 Thread Matt Seattle
A few points in the ongoing debate- 1/ I don't think there's any inherent problem using the pipes in a classical setting, it depends completely on how it's done. I didn't hear the Maxwell-Davies piece (sorry, I don't know him well enough to call him Max) so I cannot say anything about it. I've he

[NSP] Traditional & Classical etc.

2006-11-02 Thread Philip Gruar
(Getting a bit off-topic now I'm afraid) Hilary's mention of Martyn Bennett (and Ina's reference to Dick Hensold's compositions) seems to have brings us to favourite CD's of interesting developments/departures from the strictly traditional, while still remaining true to the characteristics of th

[NSP] Re: What's happening at the Chantry Museum?

2006-11-02 Thread Julia . Say
On 2 Nov 2006, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: > Just received this automatic reply: > Anne Moore is currently out of the office until further notice. She is off work recuperating from an operation and is unlikely to be back at until early Dec (soonest) There is, AFAIK, nothing wrong with the muse

[NSP] Re: NSP-Tradition - repertoire

2006-11-02 Thread Gibbons, John
How about, for a core repertoire: * Peacock, * Bewick, * the MSS on Farne - particularly the Antiquaries MS, and Crawhall * the Clough book, * the single octave tunes from Dixon (about half of them), * s

[NSP] What's happening at the Chantry Museum?

2006-11-02 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
Just received this automatic reply: Anne Moore is currently out of the office until further notice. Any urgent enquiries should be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's happening at the museum? Richard -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-a

[NSP] Re: A chiel amang ye takin notes

2006-11-02 Thread Richard Shuttleworth
> > Ina wrote: > >> > Each musical composition stands on its own as a creative effort and is > therefore fully and completely justifiable in its own right. Whether you > like it or not, or whether it fits into a genre, is always a matter of > personal, intellectual and emotional taste. H

[NSP] NSP-Tradition

2006-11-02 Thread BRIMOR
Presumably the "Traditional" tunes for the NSP would be among those included in the basic tune books. However I have reason to believe that many of these started life as fiddle tunes and many more, which lie beautifully on the pipes (such as Madame Bonapart) came from other parts of what u

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Steve Bliven
on 11/2/06 3:03 PM, Colin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This debate reminds me all too much of something that happened back in the > 60's in the "folk scene" when a fellow called Bob Dylan did the second half > of his show with an electric guitar and half the audience walked out (I was > there).

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Colin
One burning at stake coming I think This debate reminds me all too much of something that happened back in the 60's in the "folk scene" when a fellow called Bob Dylan did the second half of his show with an electric guitar and half the audience walked out (I was there). Ok, the traditio

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Hilary de Vries
I agree with many of Patrick's points, but Northumbrian pipes without drones??? Why, it's like cheese on toast without the cheese! Saying that, there is a track of Martyn Bennett playing without drones (on the Highland pipes) and playing along with Tommy Smith, the saxophonist, on the Tacsi CD,

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Gibbons, John
Hardly - modern NSP and steam locos were invented a few miles and a few years apart Apologies to Trevithick though... Now I'll be excommunicated. -Original Message- From: Paul Rhodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 November 2006 15:59 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: P

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Rhodes
Hi All, Some interesting observations here. Try playing Chatanooga Choo Choo as a Northumbrian lament. It works a treat and is great fun. Oh dear, will I be excommunicated? Best wishes, Paul Rhodes _ The new Windows Live Toolbar

[NSP] Trad V Classical ?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Singleton
Hey up, I wonder just how many of the list have actually heard NSP's closest cousin/parent playing in a setting for which it was developped. Joseph Bodin de Boismortier (1689 - 1755) wrote a great number of pieces specifically for musette du cour and hurdy gurdy with and without orchestra(Bar

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Philip Gruar
Absolutely RIGHT ON to what John, Matt and Ina have just posted. I've got nothing particularly new to say - just thought someone should voice agreement to such obvious truth & common sense! BUT Patrick is also right in his points about Riverdance etc. etc. The fact is, we need BOTH the innovato

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Gibbons, John
Today, there are far more NSPers than probably ever before, but if anyone needs more than one hand to count the good ones, he is either very generous, or can't tell the difference between fair and excellent piping. I doubt if the number of excellent pipers is greater than it has ever been. The po

[NSP] A chiel amang ye takin notes

2006-11-02 Thread Ina Gilchrist
Hi all, This thread reminds me of the criticism which arose after Robert Sherlaw Johnson`s compositions, based on the Nelson theme, for Pauline Cato a couple of years back !! I also distinctly remember that Richard Butler was working with an avant garde composer approximately 20 years ago, th

[NSP] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional approach.

2006-11-02 Thread Matt Seattle
On Thu Nov 2 0:37 , 'Doc Jones' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >I've been watching the jazz thread a bit. There seems to be a certain reluctance to see the NSP being used in venues that are not strictly traditional. The jazz thread is a total red herring. Nobody can play jazz on the NSP, the peopl