[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread BRIMOR
Matt, My husband, being interested in boats as well as in music, was intrigued by the words, and by the comment which someone made about "keels" being the sea-going boats as well as those used on the Tyne. Evidently similar boats were used on rivers and canals, at least in "gre

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Richard York
I know little enough about this particular song, but it's certainly amazing how many Homeric or other Greek mythological references turn up in apparently quite unrelated storytelling traditions collected much more recently, so wouldn't be at all offput by any Homeric strain here. Reg

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Barry Say
I think Chips has given one of the most enlightening inputs to this discussion. On 31 Oct 2008 at 13:51, Chips Lanier wrote: >Actually, the first time I saw the title "The Keelman Ower Land", I >assumed it was a tune about a waterman who had died/drowned. >Growing up near the sea an

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Chips Lanier
Actually, the first time I saw the title "The Keelman Ower Land", I assumed it was a tune about a waterman who had died/drowned. Growing up near the sea and around fishermen, I had heard the legend of when a sailor/fisherman dies, he is to walk over the land and away from the sea wit

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Julia . Say
On 31 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >His grave is green but not wi' grass >you'll never lie beside him. >means that he's drowned. Or killed in action and given a sea burial, gven the press worked for the navy. Maybe Julia To get on or off this list see list information

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Gibbons, John
The point is, keels worked the river; but he's gone off to sea, voluntarily or (probably) otherwise, and died there. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 October 2008 16:25 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad" U

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Dru
Unless we're talking about a different version from the one that circulated a day or so ago, Yes I have seen your bonny lad, 'Twas on the sea I spied him. His grave is green but not wi' grass And you'll never lie beside him. means that he's drowned. Dru > Message Recei

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Gibbons, John
Of course the 'ower long' in the printed text, probably sounded 'ower lang', so we don't fully lose the internal rhyme. I read this song as referring to a keelman being nabbed by a press gang when he was on shore. If more verses had survived, the reading might be clearer. John -Origina

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread the Red Goblin
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Seattle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 October 2008 10:54 8< snip > My question is, is there a meaning apart from the obvious in the > notion of the Keelman going "oe'r land" in this song and in the title > of the pipe tune? Well, I can brainstorm 3

[NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"

2008-10-31 Thread Matt Seattle
On 10/30/08, tim rolls BT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's gone o'er long with a stick in his hand This didn't chime with me. Apart from the poor internal rhyme, the sense is different from He's gyen ower land wiv his stick iv his hand which is how I've heard it sung. There's a version on http:

[NSP] NPS meetings - venues from now on.

2008-10-31 Thread Julia . Say
Dear members in the region (and anyone else interested!) The ordinary meetings of the society (1st Mon & 3rd Sat) will now be at Morpeth Town Hall, not in the Methodist Church as stated in the newsletter. Starting with Nov 3 when Chris O is coming to do a workshop. On Nov 15, we are hosting an