[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Francis Wood


On 28 May 2009, at 09:26, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu 
 wrote:



I also think Bach, Berg and the Beatles
 are pretty good.


I think they were all pretty awful pipers.

Don't know about J. S. Bach.  This, though, from Dr. Johnson, in  
Boswell's 'Life of . . .




Bach, Sir? Bach's concert? And pray, Sir, who is Bach? Is he a  
piper?'




J. C. Bach, of course.

Francis





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[NSP] Re: what do pipemakers do on their day off?

2009-05-28 Thread Christopher.Birch
Is this as dangerous as it looks?
Tho in the present context it's probably safer than admitting to liking KT ;-)

c 

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Subject: [NSP] what do pipemakers do on their day off?


   I noticed the following on you tube,

   [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoA3_MHwzZc



   I'm dancing number four (with the long hair).



   A little take on the traditional in my lifestyle .



   Cheers,



   Dave



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Pipes and SHAW
   Whistles
   [2]www.daveshaw.co.uk

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   1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoA3_MHwzZc
   2. http://www.daveshaw.co.uk/


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[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Gibbons, John
 
Wasn't Sebastian's grandpa, Christoph Bach, a town piper in Erfurt?



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Francis Wood
Sent: 28 May 2009 09:57
To: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu
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Subject: [NSP] Re: smallpipes


On 28 May 2009, at 09:26, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu 
christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu 
  wrote:

 I also think Bach, Berg and the Beatles
  are pretty good.

I think they were all pretty awful pipers.

Don't know about J. S. Bach.  This, though, from Dr. Johnson, in  
Boswell's 'Life of . . .


 Bach, Sir? Bach's concert? And pray, Sir, who is Bach? Is he a  
 piper?'


J. C. Bach, of course.

Francis





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[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Gibbons, John
 
The point about KT's gracenotes isn't that they are there, but they are 
open-fingered.
Not in the traditional manner - indeed 'a grievous error in smallpiping'.
Tom Clough had gracenotes - but his style was to play those detached from the 
notes they decorated.

'There is no arguing with taste - some people like to do things one way, and 
other people know better'

John

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Subject: [NSP] Re: smallpipes

   popularised by the media. As is KT.

   Maybe, but not in my case. I haven't lived in Britain for decade and
   she has not to my knowledge ever once been mentioned in the local media
   where I live (and I can't be bothered reading newspapers). I just got
   to know her through her CDs (after I had taken up nsp - I'd never heard
   of her before) and was blown away by the sheer musicality of her
   playing, quite apart from her stunning technique. OK, she chooses to
   throw in more gracenotes and slides than is to some people's taste, but
   taste is a matter of, er, taste. (isn't it?)

   I think it was John Liestman's book among other things that led me to
   believe than lots of gracenotes was a Good Thing. I think he writes
   something to the effect that an accomplished player will throw in all
   sorts of ornamentation that the beginner might miss. I don't have the
   book at hand.

   KT has mastered  the tradition, internalised it, and built on it. She
   is a creator rather than a curator.

   But she seems to have committed the unforgivable crime of being too
   successful.

   These are my personal views. I also think Bach, Berg and the Beatles
   are pretty good.

   De gustibus etc.
   chirs
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[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Richard Leach
J.S. Bach's father was the town piper.
Or should that be toon piper?

Back to the Festival (see link),
Richard Leach

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:57:11AM +0100, Francis Wood has written:

 On 28 May 2009, at 09:26, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu
 christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote:

 I also think Bach, Berg and the Beatles are pretty good.

 I think they were all pretty awful pipers.

 Don't know about J. S. Bach.  This, though, from Dr. Johnson, in
 Boswell's 'Life of . . .


 Bach, Sir? Bach's concert? And pray, Sir, who is Bach? Is he a
 piper?'


 J. C. Bach, of course.

 Francis





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[NSP] Re: what do pipemakers do on their day off?

2009-05-28 Thread Dave Shaw

Is this as dangerous as it looks?


Not really, although it can take something of a toll on the hands.
I had my left first finger main joint ripped wide open when a sword jammed
on a nail in the stage at Durham Miners Gala during the jump figure.
I still finished the dance but the others weren't too happy about the blood 
spattered all over their white shirts.


There is also a certain excitement when a sword breaks , which happens with 
a sharp crack and no prior warning.
Strangely this doesn't happen when the swords are under maximum stress, but 
afterwards in a less stressful part of a figure.



Tho in the present context it's probably safer than admitting to liking KT 
;-)


I've always got on well with Kathryn and still get a hug and a kiss when we 
meet.

It doesn't mean I feel I have to like everything she plays tho'.

All the best,

Dave

Dave Shaw, Northumbrian and Scottish Smallpipes, Irish Pipes and SHAW 
Whistles

www.daveshaw.co.uk




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[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Philip Gruar

Richard wrote


J.S. Bach's father was the town piper.
Or should that be toon piper?


It should, of course, be Stadtpfeiffer. Town Bandsman is probably the best 
translation.
Usual English equivalent was Waits. London, York and other major cities had 
them -
but in Germany they always took that kind of thing very seriously. The 
musicians played
shawms, cornetts, trombones etc. - loud instruments for playing over the 
town

from the top of towers http://www.answers.com/topic/turmmusik-music - but
also quieter instruments (lutes, violins, viols, flutes, recorders) for 
indoor functions,
mayor's banquets, trade guild dinners etc. - and in church too. Some of them 
could probably turn their hands to bagpipes as well, when needed. Here's a 
convenient picture ( from a CD which came up when I googled stadtpfeiffer - 
usual commercial disclaimers apply)

www.amazon.co.uk/Stadtpfeiffer-Renaissance-Germany-Paul-Hofhaimer/dp/B56OE8

The Bachs had been at it for so many generations that in his home town a 
Bach was another word for musician. When J.S. was a lad he would have 
been taught by his father to play most instruments - but not  I think the 
bagpipes.


Philip 




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[NSP] Re: smallpipes

2009-05-28 Thread Rick Damon
   On May 28, 2009, at 4:26 AM, [1]christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote:

 KT has mastered  the tradition, internalised it, and built on it.
 She
   is a creator rather than a curator.

   Since Chris has been saying such nice things about KT I thought I
   should re-visit her work, in case I'm missing something.  Check the
   following link and you too will be impressed!

   [2]http://james.nerdiphythesoul.com/bennyhillifier/?id=JR5UoFbcI5Y

   (Give it a couple of seconds to finish loading, and turn the sound up!)

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   2. http://james.nerdiphythesoul.com/bennyhillifier/?id=JR5UoFbcI5Y


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[NSP] Re: Presidency Latest

2009-05-28 Thread Gibbons, John
There is one univ in the country with a degree in folk music - Newcastle!

That would be far and away the obvious choice.

John


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Bohill; Daphne Briggs; Steve Campbell; Helen Capes; Pauline Cato; Margaret 
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Subject: Re: Presidency Latest

Honorary degree? Anybody got academic contacts?
Philip



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[NSP] Re: Presidency Latest

2009-05-28 Thread Adrian

Dear Anthony,
I do not wish for my name to be mentioned on any letter to the NSP 
committee.

Thanks.
Adrian





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[NSP] Re: Presidency Latest

2009-05-28 Thread Adrian
   i?

   Hello Anthony,

   what has Colin Ross done for the NSPS?

   Adrian

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