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2010-06-07 Thread inky-adrian
   Hello all,

   regarding Alnwick piper's website:

   Hosting for this domain is not configured or the domain is not
   registered.

   Inky-Adrian

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[NSP] APS website

2010-06-07 Thread Di Jevons

Hi All
Have advised the person who maintains the website for us of the problems 
which have occurred so hope the site will be sorted soon.  Apologies for any 
inconvenience.

Regards
Di Jevons
for APS 




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[NSP] Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread John Dally
Parnell's March NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but isn't
it really a hornpipe?



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[NSP] Re: Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread Gibbons, John
I thought it was a march!

There isn't much to choose between how people play dotted 4/4, (as in the duet 
book arrangement of this) and how they play 12/8 anyway. 
If it has 4 beats in the bar, (strong-weak-strong-weak) and a good bounce to 
the rhythm, it will sound right, however you spell it.


John


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Parnell's March NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but isn't
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[NSP] Re: Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread Anthony Robb


   Hello both  all,
   12/8 is the most accurate way of getting the Newcastle (as James Hill
   named it) hornpipe rhythm across (i.e. best for writing
   the common hornpipe 2:1 note ratio). The dotted quaver/semiquaver
   system gives a 3:1 ratio which is not accurate (as anyone who has used
   a computer to play a common time hornpipe will have realised). Stewart
   Hardy has pointed out many times that it all comes down to seeing
   beyond the notes and using a trained mind to interpret them. As he
   says, a traditional musician must look at the notes, recognise the
   groove, sing the tune in their head and decide on decoration and
   emphasis all at the same time in order that our imperfect nomenclature
   can't do the nasty on us.
   Anthony

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 From: Gibbons, John j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk
 Subject: [NSP] Re: Parnell's March
 To: 'John Dally' dir...@gmail.com, nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Monday, 7 June, 2010, 18:08

   I thought it was a march!
   There isn't much to choose between how people play dotted 4/4, (as in
   the duet book arrangement of this) and how they play 12/8 anyway.
   If it has 4 beats in the bar, (strong-weak-strong-weak) and a good
   bounce to the rhythm, it will sound right, however you spell it.
   John
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   Subject: [NSP] Parnell's March
   Parnell's March NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but isn't
   it really a hornpipe?
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[NSP] Re: Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread Barry Say
Hi All,

There is of course a great deal of truth in Anthony's post, but
notating hornpipes in 12/8 just doesn't do it for me.  The 2:1 ratio
is certainly a good guide. 3:1 feels more scottish to me.

The problem I found with Parnell's march in 6/8 is that when I see 3
quavers in a 6/8 rhythm I absolutely do not want to play them even.
In a hornpipe, I believe the introduction of triplets is meant
to smooth out the rhythm, for a while, in contrast to  the dotted 'n
dashed uns as Joe Hutton would call them. 

Stewart Hardy is also correct and this shows the difficulty in playing
from music.  AFAIK Northumbrian music has always been a semi-literate
tradition.  Tunes were noted down lest they be forgotten or as an aid
to learning, but I dont think their was ever a great tradition of
shepherds getting out their music stands in order to play.

Barry






On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com wrote:

 
 
Hello both  all,
12/8 is the most accurate way of getting the Newcastle (as James
 Hill named it) hornpipe rhythm across (i.e. best for writing
the common hornpipe 2:1 note ratio). The dotted quaver/semiquaver
system gives a 3:1 ratio which is not accurate (as anyone who has
 used a computer to play a common time hornpipe will have realised).
 Stewart Hardy has pointed out many times that it all comes down to
 seeing beyond the notes and using a trained mind to interpret them.
 As he says, a traditional musician must look at the notes, recognise
 the groove, sing the tune in their head and decide on decoration and
emphasis all at the same time in order that our imperfect
 nomenclature can't do the nasty on us.
Anthony
 
--- On Mon, 7/6/10, Gibbons, John j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 
  From: Gibbons, John j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk
  Subject: [NSP] Re: Parnell's March
  To: 'John Dally' dir...@gmail.com, nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
  nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
  Date: Monday, 7 June, 2010, 18:08
 
I thought it was a march!
There isn't much to choose between how people play dotted 4/4, (as
 in the duet book arrangement of this) and how they play 12/8 anyway.
If it has 4 beats in the bar, (strong-weak-strong-weak) and a good
bounce to the rhythm, it will sound right, however you spell it.
John
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To: [3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [NSP] Parnell's March
Parnell's March NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but
 isn't it really a hornpipe?
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[NSP] Drone Reed Tongue Video

2010-06-07 Thread STEPHEN DOUGLASS
I am uploading sections of a video of Colin Ross making the tongue  
for a metal bodied drone reed, filmed at the same time as the chanter  
reed video..


I have left it 'uncut' In the interests of accuracy,  mindful that  
what I think is surplus to the production, might be crucial piece of  
information for someone else.


This segment was lost until now, and formed part of his drone reed  
method in total. I am still looking for the 'metalwork' section but  
it is proving illusive.


Apologies and thanks again for the many hours that Colin donated  
through his time and expertise. The 'laugh' at the end is a  
reflection of his relief that filming was over.


Be patient if the 4 parts don't appear immediately, the uploading  
process is behaving stubbornly.


Stephen Douglass



 




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[NSP] Re: Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread helen . capes
I'm missing something here! Isn't it a march?
Helen Capes

Quoting John Dally dir...@gmail.com:

 Parnell's March NPS Bk 2, p.3: it's written out as a jig, but isn't
 it really a hornpipe?
 
 
 
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