[NSP] Clough v Reid - keys sequence
a.d.s wrote Clough played in A maj and C maj. The arrangement of the Clough arrangement of key's was C low at the left side and B at the right side and that would allow player's to play in B and play the Beeswing, Underhand and whatever. Thanks for the replies on and off-list so far. As expected, there are differing opinions. Adrian - are you saying that a B left, C right arrangement will make it significantly harder to play Beeswing, Underhand etc? Is the classic CB style essential/desirable for the traditional virtuoso repertoire? If I start making chanters with BC instead of the traditional CB, am I sending non-standard instruments out into the piping world which will hamper their future owners for years to come? Or will they join Colin's chanters with ABC, low G's etc. as part of the rich tapestry, which players will get used to? Should pipe-makers adopt a new standard with a left-side low B, but try to make it still just as easy to hit in arpeggios down from G/D as a right-side low B? Maybe this should only be done where there is also a right-side C# paired with D, but not where the C# is on the left? Philip - Original Message - From: a.d.s a@ntlworld.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:36 AM Subject: [NSP] Clough v Reid Hello all, I don't know of any player's since Clough that played in C except me and those that followed my example. Top C was added to my chanter by Colin, which was in F, which allowed me to play from low C to top C. This was a first as far as I know; bottom G didn't exist then. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Clough v Reid - keys sequence
Just a thought - clarinets have at least two duplicated little-finger keys to help certain passages. Thomas Green On 5 May 2011, at 10:10, Philip Gruar wrote: a.d.s wrote Clough played in A maj and C maj. The arrangement of the Clough arrangement of key's was C low at the left side and B at the right side and that would allow player's to play in B and play the Beeswing, Underhand and whatever. Thanks for the replies on and off-list so far. As expected, there are differing opinions. Adrian - are you saying that a B left, C right arrangement will make it significantly harder to play Beeswing, Underhand etc? Is the classic CB style essential/desirable for the traditional virtuoso repertoire? If I start making chanters with BC instead of the traditional CB, am I sending non-standard instruments out into the piping world which will hamper their future owners for years to come? Or will they join Colin's chanters with ABC, low G's etc. as part of the rich tapestry, which players will get used to? Should pipe-makers adopt a new standard with a left-side low B, but try to make it still just as easy to hit in arpeggios down from G/D as a right-side low B? Maybe this should only be done where there is also a right-side C# paired with D, but not where the C# is on the left? Philip - Original Message - From: a.d.s a@ntlworld.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:36 AM Subject: [NSP] Clough v Reid Hello all, I don't know of any player's since Clough that played in C except me and those that followed my example. Top C was added to my chanter by Colin, which was in F, which allowed me to play from low C to top C. This was a first as far as I know; bottom G didn't exist then. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 73 Huntington Rd, York YO31 8RL 01904-673675 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/greenery/
[NSP] Key of C
Hello all, the hornet's nest is being stirred here! the problem is that the best keying arrangement for any one key will be compromised due to the arpeggios and runs in the different key signatures. Also, the keying arrangement would be different if the tune has arpeggios and no runs or vice-versa in just one key! Basically, in the keys of G and D, on standard 7 key chanter, there are two compromise: the low F'# key and D key, two uses of the right thumb, also, the top G to B key where one has to replace the left thumb on G to play the top B key or vice-versa. More to come later, it's late. Adrian -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
