[NSP] Proper piping group
The new facebook forum The Proper Northumberland small-pipe Players has now developed into an array of topics: Traditional reedmaking, smallpipe making , traditional developement and delving into the past to see how things might have worked and possibly revamp them for todays use. The forum is not for those who have a total dislike of of all things traditional, it is for those who have a positive view and a general agreement with each other on what the small-pipes are about. We are actively recording the tunes and how we think the pipes should be sound. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
Dear Adrian, Why cannot all this very positive work be done on the current group that Wayne Cripps set up many years ago for exactly this type of discussion? Richard - Original Message - From: Inky- Adrian inkyadr...@googlemail.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [NSP] Proper piping group The new facebook forum The Proper Northumberland small-pipe Players has now developed into an array of topics: Traditional reedmaking, smallpipe making , traditional developement and delving into the past to see how things might have worked and possibly revamp them for todays use. The forum is not for those who have a total dislike of of all things traditional, it is for those who have a positive view and a general agreement with each other on what the small-pipes are about. We are actively recording the tunes and how we think the pipes should be sound. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
-Original Message- From: Richard Shuttleworth Dear Adrian, Why cannot all this very positive work be done on the current group that Wayne Cripps set up many years ago for exactly this type of discussion? I agree totally- it all sounds very interesting but there's no way I'm going to join Facebook, I'd have thought this group was ideal. Cheers Richard Richard Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
Hi Richards (both of you good folk!) I rather agree with Adrian that this kind of discussion is best held in a dedicated area. Some people are passionately interested in this aspect of piping, whilst others will find it totally boring. The problem with Dartmouth is that it is very difficult to follow the thread of any discussion, since the topic being discussed may have moved far from the original subject. This is why it is often difficult to extract useful information from the archived posts. There is also no opportunity to host sound or image files Facebook seems to me to be a useful place to initiate this discussion so far. The problem there is that nothing is archived. Perhaps the best destination for this interesting discussion is a dedicated area of an already existing forum. Peacock's Parlour perhaps? Francis On 27 May 2011, at 16:38, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: Dear Adrian, Why cannot all this very positive work be done on the current group that Wayne Cripps set up many years ago for exactly this type of discussion? Richard - Original Message - From: Inky- Adrian inkyadr...@googlemail.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [NSP] Proper piping group The new facebook forum The Proper Northumberland small-pipe Players has now developed into an array of topics: Traditional reedmaking, smallpipe making , traditional developement and delving into the past to see how things might have worked and possibly revamp them for todays use. The forum is not for those who have a total dislike of of all things traditional, it is for those who have a positive view and a general agreement with each other on what the small-pipes are about. We are actively recording the tunes and how we think the pipes should be sound. Adrian. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
On 27 May 2011, Francis Wood wrote: this kind of discussion is best held in a dedicated area. Perhaps the best destination for this interesting discussion is a dedicated area of an already existing forum. Peacock's Parlour perhaps? http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ is working and available. Since it allows separate threads, those with no interest in the subject can avoid it. In order to start a Peacock's Parlour...or any other topic, registration is required. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
I agree with both Francis and Julia. A good, well run, forum is a great and flexible tool for the discussion of all matters piping. I have been a member of a number of forums for my other interests and compared with the mailing list style of interaction there is no comparison. I have also created and managed a forum for the support of a Computer Aided Design package (now defunct) as well as been a member of several music mailing lists (bluegrass and mandolin) so I do have some experience. Some of the benefits of a forum are as follows:- Topics are threaded so that it is easy to follow a discussion. Topics are easy to search and easy to archive. Posts can have attachments such as PDFs, MP3, pictures and many other useful files. Special interest areas are easy to provide and can be easily moderated (policed) Sections for classified ads, rants etc will keep the main discussion areas more focused. Posts can be edited by the poster for a period set by the list owner (usually 24 hours) And many more. I would suggest that the forum being set up on the NPS site would be the best place to use as it does look as though it could be good. There are a couple of niggles however:- I have tried to register but, despite having received an acknowledgment some 4 days ago, I still haven't been approved. This is not helping the forum grow. On the forum I managed I used the forum's automated registration tools so that a user could register and be on the forum in a few minutes and all I had to do was to throw off the very few people who abused the forum. Also I think that the forum should be on the front page of the site rather than being tucked away on the members page. This forum should be a powerful tool in the NPS task of spreading the word and supporting Northumbrian Piping across the world Mike Quoting Julia Say julia@nspipes.co.uk: On 27 May 2011, Francis Wood wrote: this kind of discussion is best held in a dedicated area. Perhaps the best destination for this interesting discussion is a dedicated area of an already existing forum. Peacock's Parlour perhaps? http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ is working and available. Since it allows separate threads, those with no interest in the subject can avoid it. In order to start a Peacock's Parlour...or any other topic, registration is required. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
Mike is right about the value of a forum as compared to a list. There are a couple of uilleann pipes forums which each contain a superb archive of discussion and information going back several years. Easily searchable. And no need to join Facebook! Cheers Richard Richard Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
Hi All, When you register on the northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/, please use a recognisable version of your own name. Problems in the past with aliases have led us to request this transparency. Thanks Tim nps forum admin On 27 May 2011, at 19:35, Julia Say wrote: On 27 May 2011, Francis Wood wrote: this kind of discussion is best held in a dedicated area. Perhaps the best destination for this interesting discussion is a dedicated area of an already existing forum. Peacock's Parlour perhaps? http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ is working and available. Since it allows separate threads, those with no interest in the subject can avoid it. In order to start a Peacock's Parlour...or any other topic, registration is required. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Dartmouth
Hopefully the new forum has spell-check as well. ;-) On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Inky- Adrian [1]inkyadr...@googlemail.com wrote: Dear all , If you don't like it, lump it. I'm buggering of to a more pleasant forum where we have intelligentcia. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:inkyadr...@googlemail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Rules
I don't want a definate rule I would just like thr NPS to acknowledge that there is a traditional way of playing the small-pipes which is detached. If they don' t, then they are saying that the pipes have no playing tradition, therefore I'm playing pipes which are a bastard- no lineage of how they are played. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Rules
On 27 May 2011, Inky- Adrian wrote: I don't want a definate rule I would just like thr NPS to acknowledge that there is a traditional way of playing the small-pipes which is detached. If they don' t, then they are saying that the pipes have no playing tradition, therefore I'm playing pipes which are a bastard- no lineage of how they are played. The NPS is the sum of its members, so who is the they to whom you refer? I am making a note of this posting, and treating it as correspondence to the NPS committee. In the meantime, and to the best of my knowledge, the current committee, not all of whom read this list, are well aware that prominent and highly respected players have views - often strong and differing - on styles of playing. They are also well aware that there is a playing tradition that we all strive to continue and develop, each in our different way. If this is not definite enough for you, I suggest you contact the chairman directly and explain your concerns. Andrew has made it abundantly clear that he is interested to hear from members on any subject, and he is a good listener. I hope this helps Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Proper piping group
Would it be possible to have a forum on the pipersfourm dedicated to TOTM? There might only be two of us interested in it, in which case it might as well stay here--no need to make more work for Julia. I hoped that pipers like Inky would participate so that they can show us what they're talking about. One minute of music says more than a thousand words. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Tim Rolls [1]tim.ro...@btconnect.com wrote: Hi All, When you register on the [2]northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/, please use a recognisable version of your own name. Problems in the past with aliases have led us to request this transparency. Thanks Tim nps forum admin On 27 May 2011, at 19:35, Julia Say wrote: On 27 May 2011, Francis Wood wrote: this kind of discussion is best held in a dedicated area. Perhaps the best destination for this interesting discussion is a dedicated area of an already existing forum. Peacock's Parlour perhaps? [3]http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ is working and available. Since it allows separate threads, those with no interest in the subject can avoid it. In order to start a Peacock's Parlour...or any other topic, registration is required. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:tim.ro...@btconnect.com 2. http://northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ 3. http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Rules
I think Adrian is expressing some of my personal opinion. I think that the NPS has a significant duty to provide information to its membership, particularly new pipers, about the various approaches to piping and to offer encouragement to those who wish to take a disciplined approach to piping. I think some might call this the pursuit of excellence. The tutor book which indicated a proper style of piping was the product of a former, late 19th C society which did not last very long. I fear that such researches as I have carried to not lead me to suppose that the founders of the NPS (est 1928) were not shining lights in the piping firmament. No wonder Tom Clough could not see the point. But, We have a strong piping community We have a viable society We have an excellent range of top-class pipers for all tastes We have several first class exponents of detached playing. We have pipes that play in tune We have abundant CDs We have more tunebooks than most know what to do with Are we perhaps experiencing the 'penalties of success' Barry - Ask not what you can do for the NPS but rather what you can do for piping. Then bang on the NPS door until they give you the wherewithall to do it. Quoting Inky- Adrian inkyadr...@googlemail.com: I don't want a definate rule I would just like thr NPS to acknowledge that there is a traditional way of playing the small-pipes which is detached. If they don' t, then they are saying that the pipes have no playing tradition, therefore I'm playing pipes which are a bastard- no lineage of how they are played. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Rules
barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: We have a strong piping community We have a viable society Several years ago I read a review of the first 25 or 30 years (forget which) of Na Piobairi Uilleann written by Pat McNulty in an Irish music magazine. His final comment stuck with meThere are more people with uilleann pipes now but do we have any more pipers? Ian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Dartmouth
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Hopefully the new forum has spell-check as well. ;-)
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