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Thanks, Ian, for this link. Really useful, especially when it leads to Jakob Nielsen's pages, where I can feel virtuous about some bits my own site's design and learn that others need changing quite seriously! Richard. When I have had problems like this I often go back and re-read and angryish rant from the great Scottish singer Dick Gaughan which I came across when I first started setting up my own site. In someways it is a bit dated (what is Netscape..?) but the underlying argument is solidfinding out how to write in basic html is better than relying on proprietary web writing programs that can actually work against you. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2001JulSep/att-0200/rant.htm Ian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Ian, Thanks for posting the link to the Dick Gaughan article. It is perhaps even more relevant than ever in today's online world. Also worth a visit is www.internetisshit.org, another discussion of style vs content, the medium not being the message and so on. For a longer read, Andrew Keene's The Cult of the Amateur is also interesting, and available from Amazon. All the best, Andrew Gilhooley To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Bit over the top isn't it? And anyway the monkeys and their trypewriters (sic) are a fallacy. You'd long have exhausted the number of particles in the universe before you got close to having an infinite number of anything. Infinity is, er, big. c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of A.J.Gilhooley Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:51 PM To: Ian Lawther; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Help please Ian, Thanks for posting the link to the Dick Gaughan article. It is perhaps even more relevant than ever in today's online world. Also worth a visit is www.internetisshit.org, another discussion of style vs content, the medium not being the message and so on. For a longer read, Andrew Keene's The Cult of the Amateur is also interesting, and available from Amazon. All the best, Andrew Gilhooley To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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The link from the rant to Gaughan's main page doesn't work. Somebody being clueless, I assume. c -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard York Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:41 AM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Help please Thanks, Ian, for this link. Really useful, especially when it leads to Jakob Nielsen's pages, where I can feel virtuous about some bits my own site's design and learn that others need changing quite seriously! Richard. When I have had problems like this I often go back and re-read and angryish rant from the great Scottish singer Dick Gaughan which I came across when I first started setting up my own site. In someways it is a bit dated (what is Netscape..?) but the underlying argument is solidfinding out how to write in basic html is better than relying on proprietary web writing programs that can actually work against you. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2001JulSep/att-0 200/rant.htm Ian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Sorry, Anthony, but that's the way we 're hearing it also. I know that it sounded interesting when you combined Windy Gyle Slow Air and fast Jig, but interesting is not the adjective I'd use for this combination. Sheila -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Chris Almond chrisalmo...@aol.com; John Birchall Andrea Egner john.birch...@t-online.de; Ewan Barker e.bar...@ballarat.edu.au; NIGEL BARLOW barlowsmallpi...@btinternet.com; Kim Bibby-Wilson k...@northumbriana.org.uk; Anne Dolphin Bill Toy annedolp...@hotmail.com; Edmund Boulting lkmar...@bellsouth.net; Sheila John Bridges bri...@aol.com; Steve Campbell s.campbell...@btinternet.com; Paul Tabbush Carolyn Robson paul.tabb...@virgin.net; Margaret Cato dmc...@talktalk.net; Tevye Celius t-cel...@onu.edu; Sue Clark sue.cl...@blueyonder.co.uk; Roger Clubley ro...@clubleys.co.uk; Dave Cook dco...@talk21.com; John Corrigan j...@x1jjc.wanadoo.co.uk; Graham O'Sullivan grahamjosulli...@yahoo.co.uk; David Oliver dmomu...@hotmail.co.uk; Sara Paton cookie_...@hotmail.com; Tristan Seldon lord.nit...@googlemail.com; Gill Sergeant gsat5...@aol.com; Dave Singleton david...@pt.lu; neil smith' nwspi...@hotmail.co.uk; Neil Tavernor neiltaver...@b! tinternet.com; Jenny Tunbridge g.tunbri...@allsaints-gosforth.org.uk; Lindy Turner l.turne...@btinternet.com; Hans Waltl wa...@compuserve.com; Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:54 am Subject: Help please Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end but there is at least 1 person out there finding this problem and I'd like to see how universal it is. Hugs thanks all round for any assistance with this. Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Ditto to what Sheila said. I just tried it on a Mac with Safari. Also tried it on Windoze with IE. Glad to continue with Firefox or anything else any time you ask, Anthony. --Rick On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:13 PM, bri...@aol.com wrote: Sorry, Anthony, but that's the way we 're hearing it also. I know that it sounded interesting when you combined Windy Gyle Slow Air and fast Jig, but interesting is not the adjective I'd use for this combination. Sheila -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Chris Almond chrisalmo...@aol.com; John Birchall Andrea Egner john.birch...@t-online.de; Ewan Barker e.bar...@ballarat.edu.au; NIGEL BARLOW barlowsmallpi...@btinternet.com; Kim Bibby-Wilson k...@northumbriana.org.uk; Anne Dolphin Bill Toy annedolp...@hotmail.com; Edmund Boulting lkmar...@bellsouth.net; Sheila John Bridges bri...@aol.com; Steve Campbell s.campbell...@btinternet.com; Paul Tabbush Carolyn Robson paul.tabb...@virgin.net; Margaret Cato dmc...@talktalk.net; Tevye Celius t-cel...@onu.edu; Sue Clark sue.cl...@blueyonder.co.uk; Roger Clubley ro...@clubleys.co.uk; Dave Cook dco...@talk21.com; John Corrigan j...@x1jjc.wanadoo.co.uk; Graham O'Sullivan grahamjosulli...@yahoo.co.uk; David Oliver dmomu...@hotmail.co.uk; Sara Paton cookie_...@hotmail.com; Tristan Seldon lord.nit...@googlemail.com; Gill Sergeant gsat5...@aol.com; Dave Singleton david...@pt.lu; neil smith' nwspi...@hotmail.co.uk; Neil Tavernor neiltavernor! @b! tinternet.com; Jenny Tunbridge g.tunbri...@allsaints-gosforth.org.uk; Lindy Turner l.turne...@btinternet.com; Hans Waltl wa...@compuserve.com; Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:54 am Subject: Help please Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end but there is at least 1 person out there finding this problem and I'd like to see how universal it is. Hugs thanks all round for any assistance with this. Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Anthony, I can add that I've had the same result as Rick and Sheila with Firefox on a MacBook. My wife shouted from the next room What's That??! John Clifford East Kilbride On 16 Nov 2010, at 21:19, Rick Damon wrote: Ditto to what Sheila said. I just tried it on a Mac with Safari. Also tried it on Windoze with IE. Glad to continue with Firefox or anything else any time you ask, Anthony. --Rick On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:13 PM, bri...@aol.com wrote: Sorry, Anthony, but that's the way we 're hearing it also. I know that it sounded interesting when you combined Windy Gyle Slow Air and fast Jig, but interesting is not the adjective I'd use for this combination. Sheila -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Chris Almond chrisalmo...@aol.com; John Birchall Andrea Egner john.birch...@t-online.de; Ewan Barker e.bar...@ballarat.edu.au; NIGEL BARLOW barlowsmallpi...@btinternet.com; Kim Bibby-Wilson k...@northumbriana.org.uk; Anne Dolphin Bill Toy annedolp...@hotmail.com; Edmund Boulting lkmar...@bellsouth.net; Sheila John Bridges bri...@aol.com; Steve Campbell s.campbell...@btinternet.com; Paul Tabbush Carolyn Robson paul.tabb...@virgin.net; Margaret Cato dmc...@talktalk.net; Tevye Celius t-cel...@onu.edu; Sue Clark sue.cl...@blueyonder.co.uk; Roger Clubley ro...@clubleys.co.uk; Dave Cook dco...@talk21.com; John Corrigan j...@x1jjc.wanadoo.co.uk; Graham O'Sullivan grahamjosulli...@yahoo.co.uk; David Oliver dmomu...@hotmail.co.uk; Sara Paton cookie_...@hotmail.com; Tristan Seldon lord.nit...@googlemail.com; Gill Sergeant gsat5...@aol.com; Dave Singleton david...@pt.lu; neil smith' nwspi...@hotmail.co.uk; Neil Tavernor neiltavernor! @b! tinternet.com; Jenny Tunbridge g.tunbri...@allsaints- gosforth.org.uk; Lindy Turner l.turne...@btinternet.com; Hans Waltl wa...@compuserve.com; Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 9:54 am Subject: Help please Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end but there is at least 1 person out there finding this problem and I'd like to see how universal it is. Hugs thanks all round for any assistance with this. Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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On 16 Nov 2010, John Clifford wrote: I can add that I've had the same result as Rick and Sheila It happens here as well (Firefox on windows in one case, Linux in the other) Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Anthony, I had no problem with your sound clips. (Windows Vista IE or iPod Touch Safari) Dick Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end but there is at least 1 person out there finding this problem and I'd like to see how universal it is. Hugs thanks all round for any assistance with this. Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Strange things happened. When I tried to play a file in IE, I got a Spybot warning that something was trying to alter the Quicktime settings and was marked as malicious software (I rarely use Quicktime so it was probably way out of date but have no idea why it should cause a problem). After that they played fine BUT clicking on another one whilst the other was still playing didn't terminate the first one so it's possible to have them all playing together (not recommended for those of nervous disposition) but they didn't start spontaniously. In Firefox the players don't show at all - just a black box where they should be. It was, however, possible to download the clips using Firefox's DownloadHelper and play them off the hard disc. My system is quite old (like me). WinXP. I have no idea why the mediaplayers don't show up at all in Firefox though. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Richard A. Bennett rajhbenn...@comcast.net To: anth...@robbpipes.com; John Clifford cliff...@universalist.ednet.co.uk Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:20 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Help please Anthony, I had no problem with your sound clips. (Windows Vista IE or iPod Touch Safari) Dick Hello Folks May I ask for your help to see if you experience all clips playing automatically and simultaneously (OUCH!!) when viewing my website www.robbpipes.com It seems fine from this end but there is at least 1 person out there finding this problem and I'd like to see how universal it is. Hugs thanks all round for any assistance with this. Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Ian Lawther wrote: I'm using ubuntu linux and I can't get the clips to play at all - though they do on the Hooky Mat pages. Also the writing on the site overlaps line on line as can be seen from the screen shot attached. It didn't attach so I am trying to embed it. I hope this doesn't mess up anyones download speed too much. Scrrenshot -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Just to muddy the waters, Safari gives just the titles of the clips,but no sliders to play them, Firefox has nice Quicktime sliders which all work perfectly and individually, will stop and start as requested. Running Snow Leopard on an iMac. Great sound though. Hope this helps Tim On 16 Nov 2010, at 22:49, Julia Say wrote: On 16 Nov 2010, John Clifford wrote: I can add that I've had the same result as Rick and Sheila It happens here as well (Firefox on windows in one case, Linux in the other) Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
