[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-15 Thread Christopher.Birch
I gather the unexplanation of the Goebel's paralysis was carpal tunnel 
syndrome.  
c

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>>>>Oops! Yes, I do mean that he ruined his **right** hand. 
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>DAMMIT! NO, I DON'T that...@#*$%#!!
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>I mean he ruined his LEFT hand, the one he fingered the strings with.
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>You can see how disorienting all this is!  :-)
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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-15 Thread Christopher.Birch
It appears to have disoriented the author of this article too:

http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Goebel-Reinhard.htm

"After unexplained paralysis struck his right hand, Goebel abandoned his career 
as a solo violinist, although he continued to play with his group, bowing the 
violin with his left hand."

Probably producing some nice drones, so it's not that far off topic ;-)
chirs

 

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>>>>Sent: 15 January 2009 11:51
>>>>To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
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>>>>Oops! Yes, I do mean that he ruined his **right** hand. 
>
>DAMMIT! NO, I DON'T that...@#*$%#!!
>
>I mean he ruined his LEFT hand, the one he fingered the strings with.
>
>You can see how disorienting all this is!  :-)
>
>Paul
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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Gretton


>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Paul Gretton [mailto:i...@gretton-willems.com] 
>>>Sent: 15 January 2009 11:51
>>>To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
>>>Subject: [NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

>>>Oops! Yes, I do mean that he ruined his **right** hand. 

DAMMIT! NO, I DON'T that...@#*$%#!!

I mean he ruined his LEFT hand, the one he fingered the strings with.

You can see how disorienting all this is!  :-)

Paul



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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Gretton
Oops! Yes, I do mean that he ruined his **right** hand. He used to play in
the standard way with the instrument on his left shoulder and the bow in his
right hand. Now he plays the other way round.

Paul

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From: christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu [mailto:christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu]

Sent: 15 January 2009 10:19
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Subject: [NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

>Even more
>   disorientating was playing with a German violinist who had had an
>   accident that ruined his right hand; he re-taught himself to play
>   "left-handed".


A minor quibble, but do you mean "ruined his *left* hand"? I can imagine
bowing with an injured right hand as long as the wrist, elbow and shoulder
were still ok, but doing the job normally assigned to the left hand with an
injured right sounds impossible.



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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-15 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Even more
>   disorientating was playing with a German violinist who had had an
>   accident that ruined his right hand; he re-taught himself to play
>   "left-handed".


A minor quibble, but do you mean "ruined his *left* hand"? I can imagine bowing 
with an injured right hand as long as the wrist, elbow and shoulder were still 
ok, but doing the job normally assigned to the left hand with an injured right 
sounds impossible.

I know a left-handed cellist who tried to learn "the right way round" but found 
it much easier when she reversed everything. This suggests that, for some 
people at least, one way is more natural than the other at the neurological 
level.

I also know a brilliant left-handed guitarist who plays right-handed (ditto 
violinist), so it's probably all down to the individual.   

chirs



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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-14 Thread Bill Telfer
Ref mistakes in pictorial depictions of pipers . As someone mentioned
earlier ''There are also examples in Hugh Cheape's recent book about
bagpipes.''

I haven't read Hugh Cheape's book but quite a few years ago he had an
article published in the LBPS magazine, Common Stock highlighting the many
examples of errors made by artists, lithographers, printers etc so I expect
the new book will further amplify this. Few pipers ''choose'' to play with
the bag under the right arm. And   note that the vast majority of people who
ride a bicycle mount and dismount and, especially, when walking along
pushing the bike beside them do so on the left. (Maybe its the same with
horse-riders?). Anyway do we know why this is the ''natural'' way to do it?
Bill




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[NSP] Re: Prints of pipers

2009-01-14 Thread Philip Gruar

from Paul


  a German violinist who had had an
  accident that ruined his right hand; he re-taught himself to play
  "left-handed".


And of course the Beatles presented a well balanced symetrical image to the 
world - John and the left-handed Paul either side of the mike. 





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