[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
Thanks for those comments Sheila. As it happens the walkers (120 or so) were sauntering around one of Martha's famous buffet arrangements at Blankenheim when I learnt the tune. We played it on two fiddles and a nyckelharpa about 17 times through and it was lovely. We have since used the tune to walk the building at The Sage Gateshead - strolling around playing it everywhere including fire escapes, main auditoriums and even loos! I think it's called taking the music to the people. Anthony --- On Fri, 21/8/09, bri...@aol.com bri...@aol.com wrote: From: bri...@aol.com bri...@aol.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: anth...@robbpipes.com, nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 21 August, 2009, 1:04 AM Hi Anthony, Windy Gyle is such a beautiful CD, we play it over and over.? If anything . .. Appelbo is maybe a trifle too slow but, as Colin said, you can play a tune any way you like it best and, after all, maybe?the walkers were?admiring the view as they went.?? Could you send me the dots -?all the?parts - for Shingly Beach - a lovely tune,? nice arrangement and beautifully played. Sheila ? ? -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb [1]anth...@robbpipes.com To: [2]...@cs.dartmouth.edu; [3]julia@nspipes.co.uk Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 4:58 am Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Hello Julia Have put a clip of a bit of the Windy Gyle version at [1][4]http://robbpipes.com/ Not sure if it is slow enough - perhaps you, Sheila or Margaret can check. At least we seem to have the title and spelling right! Cheers Anthony --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Julia Say [5]julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: From: Julia Say [6]julia@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: [7]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 8:39 AM On 18 Aug 2009, [2][8]bri...@aol.com wrote: Margaret has spellt it out perfectly for you. Thanks to everyone who helped. ?? My Word? and Open Office have all of the accents for the vowels but I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? I I have access to the necessary through Word, but no, the emailer doesn't do it. the Ganglats are definitely Walking Music .???Years ago,?when I was in UK I took 3 of the tunes, including the Ganglat fran Appelbo ?along to a session at the Sun Inn, and? talked a bit about this Walking Music, however, as soon as the tune had been played a couple of times, someone said, Oh, we know this tune, we call it the Appleblossom Polka?and we play it like this, ?and promptly galloped through it. I remember, I was there. Shortly afterwards we were visited by a Swedish lady who was also horrified at the speed at which we played them. Stockholmslaten is already in tunebook 3, but Appelbolaten does also come up at intervals so I thought I'd put it in the upcoming folio. Maybe we can get it back to its Swedish speed - we'll have to see. Thanks again Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [3][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [10]http://robbpipes.com/ 2. [11]http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bri...@aol.com 3. [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=anth...@robbpipes.com 2. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=julia@nspipes.co.uk 4. http://robbpipes.com/ 5. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=julia@nspipes.co.uk 6. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=julia@nspipes.co.uk 7. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bri...@aol.com 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 10. http://robbpipes.com/ 11. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bri...@aol.com 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Variation in interpretation is what music is all about so play the tune the way you want to and don't be brought down by the fundamentalists. Hear hear!!! CB
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
Hi Anthony, Windy Gyle is such a beautiful CD, we play it over and over.? If anything . .. Appelbo is maybe a trifle too slow but, as Colin said, you can play a tune any way you like it best and, after all, maybe?the walkers were?admiring the view as they went.?? Could you send me the dots -?all the?parts - for Shingly Beach - a lovely tune,? nice arrangement and beautifully played. Sheila ? ? -Original Message- From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; julia@nspipes.co.uk Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 4:58 am Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Hello Julia Have put a clip of a bit of the Windy Gyle version at [1]http://robbpipes.com/ Not sure if it is slow enough - perhaps you, Sheila or Margaret can check. At least we seem to have the title and spelling right! Cheers Anthony --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Julia Say julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: From: Julia Say julia@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 8:39 AM On 18 Aug 2009, [2]bri...@aol.com wrote: Margaret has spellt it out perfectly for you. Thanks to everyone who helped. ?? My Word? and Open Office have all of the accents for the vowels but I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? I I have access to the necessary through Word, but no, the emailer doesn't do it. the Ganglats are definitely Walking Music .???Years ago,?when I was in UK I took 3 of the tunes, including the Ganglat fran Appelbo ?along to a session at the Sun Inn, and? talked a bit about this Walking Music, however, as soon as the tune had been played a couple of times, someone said, Oh, we know this tune, we call it the Appleblossom Polka?and we play it like this, ?and promptly galloped through it. I remember, I was there. Shortly afterwards we were visited by a Swedish lady who was also horrified at the speed at which we played them. Stockholmslaten is already in tunebook 3, but Appelbolaten does also come up at intervals so I thought I'd put it in the upcoming folio. Maybe we can get it back to its Swedish speed - we'll have to see. Thanks again Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://robbpipes.com/ 2. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bri...@aol.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? Tip: In WinXP (MacOS/Linux may have a similar applet) I simply copy paste exotic characters from the Character Map* accessory. Steve Collins * Buried in Start Programs Accessories System Tools (points to %SystemRoot%\System32\charmap.exe if missing) but I keep a shortcut handy on my Office Toolbar To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
Hi All Personally I wouldn't bother trying to put exotic characters in e-mail. They only work if the recipient is using the same system to read the messages as the sender is using to compose them. Look at the trouble we with get with £ signs. Barry On 19 Aug 2009 at 10:02, The Red Goblin wrote: I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? Tip: In WinXP (MacOS/Linux may have a similar applet) I simply copy paste exotic characters from the Character Map* accessory. Steve Collins * Buried in Start Programs Accessories System Tools (points to %SystemRoot%\System32\charmap.exe if missing) but I keep a shortcut handy on my Office Toolbar To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
Surely worth a go if it means more chance of the name being right in the publication? A --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: From: Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: Nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 10:25 AM Hi All Personally I wouldn't bother trying to put exotic characters in e-mail. They only work if the recipient is using the same system to read the messages as the sender is using to compose them. Look at the trouble we with get with -L- signs. Barry On 19 Aug 2009 at 10:02, The Red Goblin wrote: I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? Tip: In WinXP (MacOS/Linux may have a similar applet) I simply copy paste exotic characters from the Character Map* accessory. Steve Collins * Buried in Start Programs Accessories System Tools (points to %SystemRoot%\System32\charmap.exe if missing) but I keep a shortcut handy on my Office Toolbar To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
A grand tune, however you spell it! -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: 19 August 2009 09:59 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; julia@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Hello Julia Have put a clip of a bit of the Windy Gyle version at [1]http://robbpipes.com/ Not sure if it is slow enough - perhaps you, Sheila or Margaret can check. At least we seem to have the title and spelling right! Cheers Anthony --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Julia Say julia@nspipes.co.uk wrote: From: Julia Say julia@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 8:39 AM On 18 Aug 2009, [2]bri...@aol.com wrote: Margaret has spellt it out perfectly for you. Thanks to everyone who helped. ?? My Word? and Open Office have all of the accents for the vowels but I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? I I have access to the necessary through Word, but no, the emailer doesn't do it. the Ganglats are definitely Walking Music .???Years ago,?when I was in UK I took 3 of the tunes, including the Ganglat fran Appelbo ?along to a session at the Sun Inn, and? talked a bit about this Walking Music, however, as soon as the tune had been played a couple of times, someone said, Oh, we know this tune, we call it the Appleblossom Polka?and we play it like this, ?and promptly galloped through it. I remember, I was there. Shortly afterwards we were visited by a Swedish lady who was also horrified at the speed at which we played them. Stockholmslaten is already in tunebook 3, but Appelbolaten does also come up at intervals so I thought I'd put it in the upcoming folio. Maybe we can get it back to its Swedish speed - we'll have to see. Thanks again Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://robbpipes.com/ 2. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bri...@aol.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Of course, even if we get the name spelt/spelled correctly, we're still left with the discussion about how the actual tune goes. Tim - Original Message - From: colin cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk To: Nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Good point but I do understand what Barry is saying. I well remember sending a friend an email in Elvish for a bit of fun (Lord of the Rings style) which resulted in total gibberish as they didn't have the font installed to display it! In fact, the pound sign (which was fine in the Barry's original message) showed up as a capital L in your reply. :-) Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Surely worth a go if it means more chance of the name being right in the publication? A --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote: From: Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling To: Nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 19 August, 2009, 10:25 AM Hi All Personally I wouldn't bother trying to put exotic characters in e-mail. They only work if the recipient is using the same system to read the messages as the sender is using to compose them. Look at the trouble we with get with -L- signs. Barry On 19 Aug 2009 at 10:02, The Red Goblin wrote: I have not found a way to access them for e-mail.? Tip: In WinXP (MacOS/Linux may have a similar applet) I simply copy paste exotic characters from the Character Map* accessory. Steve Collins * Buried in Start Programs Accessories System Tools (points to %SystemRoot%\System32\charmap.exe if missing) but I keep a shortcut handy on my Office Toolbar To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2312 - Release Date: 08/18/09 18:05:00
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
Hi Julia, here's one --- [1]Tune Req: Ganglat Fran Mockfjard Gaerdebylaaten appears in this book on the same page as another popular Swedish Tune Aeppelbolaaten (Appelbolaten). I also have Nick Barber's English Choice . Julia Say wrote: Can anyone tell me where the letters with dots over and suchlike should go in the tune title APPELBOLATEN (it's Swedish). I have it handwritten, twice and differently, from various sources, and I don't trust either rendition. Thanks Julia To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - [3]www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 06:03 :00 -- References 1. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=11309messages=18 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://www.avg.com/
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X-Mozilla-Keys: Message-ID: 163-4a8b0cfc.1040...@pt.lu Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:20:12 +0200 From: Dave S david...@pt.lu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: julia@nspipes.co.uk, nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [NSP] Tune title spelling References: 211-4a8b18e6.9698.28fc...@julia.say.nspipes.co.uk In-Reply-To: 211-4a8b18e6.9698.28fc...@julia.say.nspipes.co.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=010300060808050307080104 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --010300060808050307080104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Julia, here's one --- Tune Req: Ganglat Fran Mockfjard http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid309messages Gärdebylåten appears in this book on the same page as another popular Swedish Tune Äppelbolåten (/Appelbolaten/). I also have Nick Barber's English Choice *.* Julia Say wrote: Can anyone tell me where the letters with dots over and suchlike should go in the tune title APPELBOLATEN (it's Swedish). I have it handwritten, twice and differently, from various sources, and I don't trust either rendition. Thanks Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 06:03:00 --010300060808050307080104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 Hi Julia,br br here's one ---br h3 class=ra href=http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid309amp;messages class=l onmousedown=return clk(this.href,'','','res','5','')Tune Req: Ganglat Fran Mockfjard/a/h3 Gauml;rdebylaring;ten appears in this book on the same page as another popular Swedish Tune Auml;ppelbolaring;ten (emAppelbolaten/em). I also have Nick Barber's English Choice b./bbr br Julia Say wrote: blockquote cite=mid:211-4a8b18e6.9698.28fc...@julia.say.nspipes.co.uk type=cite pre wrap=Can anyone tell me where the letters with dots over and suchlike should go in the tune title APPELBOLATEN (it's Swedish). I have it handwritten, twice and differently, from various sources, and I don't trust either rendition. Thanks Julia To get on or off this list see list information at a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html;http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html/a/pre pre wrap= hr size=4 width=90% No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=http://www.avg.com;www.avg.com/a Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 06:03:00 /pre /blockquote /body /html --010300060808050307080104-- --
[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling
APPELBOLATEN should be Äppelbolåten, though my Swedish publications (and friends!) all call the tune Gånglåt från Äppelbo - which simply means 'Walking tune from Äppelbo'. It's a tune from Dalarna, usually associated with a fiddle player called Ärtbergs Kalle (1826-1917) Margaret -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dave S Sent: 18 August 2009 21:20 To: julia@nspipes.co.uk; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune title spelling Hi Julia, here's one --- [1]Tune Req: Ganglat Fran Mockfjard Gaerdebylaaten appears in this book on the same page as another popular Swedish Tune Aeppelbolaaten (Appelbolaten). I also have Nick Barber's English Choice . Julia Say wrote: Can anyone tell me where the letters with dots over and suchlike should go in the tune title APPELBOLATEN (it's Swedish). I have it handwritten, twice and differently, from various sources, and I don't trust either rendition. Thanks Julia -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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No, it's the little hamlet just down the road, York-With-Outany ;-) R. Is that as in Yorke-Withany? Honor Hill -Original Message- From: Richard York [[1]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:27 PM To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] re-Tune title spelling Interesting - name spelling consistency seems to have been a remarkably variable thing anyway until relatively recently. When did it generally get standardised, I wonder? Richard York, (or in some branches of the family, Yorke...) Jim Grant wrote: Maybe his name was re spelled at the time of his death, to protect the rest of the family- the pc of the time- James who? No, no relation. of ours.. So if the current generation want to reclaim him, they would have to change to his spelling, as in You only inherit if you take my name! To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
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I'm not altering my nice Tunebook 1 for the sake of that rogue, villain and scoundrel! Francis On 14 Aug 2008, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently been in contact with a lady whose 7x great grandfather was Will Allan. She is descended from Jimmy's brother Robert, although the Allan surname disappeared a couple of generations back as one Hugh Allan only had daughters. Anyway, the point of this ramble is that they have found no instances of the Allen spelling (as in the first tune book) in their researches, and all records are spelt Allan. They think it's important that their iconic ancestor is correctly represented in future! I will notify Jamie's 21st century avatar... Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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If not for the sake of Jemmy, then for the sake of Auld Wull, who is, from his description in the 'Life of J A', a more suitable candidate for iconic status. - Matt Seattle (or Seatle..) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
