[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question
It's not really Tony's fault. I imagine the owner/board would have said to him (24 hrs before sacking him) that he had their full support etc etc. It would be very easy to believe (at least that's how it works with NRL coaches here). I wish the cashing pack was chasing me! JT Quoting Steven Millward : > I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading > fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The > cashing pack are closing in. > > > > At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. > > He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players and > most of the fans. > > Today he'll be sacked. > > Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why > do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with > their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so > that they get the full contract paid out? > > > > > 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry > >> we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have >> of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to >> absolutely F all). >> >> -- >> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Rog & Rita >> *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [NSWolves] Merlin question >> >> Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? >> >> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the >> intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this >> email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee >> the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions >> expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of >> Macquarie. >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
Depends what form is. What makes it come and go? I don't think it has anything to do with trends. Isn't it just a random variable that gets applied to a team's abilities over the season? Or have I been playing too much Hattrick? I don't really know what it means. It seems to me that it is something that used by football supporters to explain the clumpiness of results resulting from random events in matches. We clearly still have a problem with our defence that Mancienne solved for a period of time. I'm not sure we have a "form" problem. Regarding your point in bold below, our good form earlier in the season gave no indication that our form was about to go bad. Likewise, we surely shouldn't expect to see indications of our form about to turn up. It just will if it's going to. 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry > but surely any assumptions you make about a potential future league > position must take note of current, recent and past trends (form). Trends > are used in pretty much every aspect of our lives to try and help us > understand future possible outcomes, whether that be weather, stock markets, > mortality, morbidity, commodity prices, house prices etc etc. > > *Whilst our early season form was good and other teams not so good, the > recent form of Wolves have given no indication that we are about to improve > our current form or even replicate our early season form*. As such, it is > not unrealistic to assume that we could continue our downward trend, whilst > at the same time other teams will continue with their improved form. > History tells us that at some point our form should return and the forecast > will look better, but the same could be said of the stockmarket; we know > that it will improve but we know that it won't be soon because there are no > positive trends currently being shown. The same applies to Wolves. > > > Until we see, read, hear evidence that our form is improving, I fear for our > promotion aspirations. > > > -- > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 PM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified] > > I take a statistical view that the nth best team over the season will > finish nth. > > The problem with football is that performance is clumpy. We'd be on the > same points now if some of the recent losses had been mixed in with the two > seven game streaks. It just looks bad when we were better at the start than > we are now. > > My point is I try not to worry about changes in form too much. I still > think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum > but perhaps not better than Reading > > I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level > to get promoted. Of course there are plenty of teams such as Cardiff and > Watford that have proven me wrong, although I don't think either of them > were at the top at this stage having been so for four months. > > I'm responsing to your point below. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed > statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor > runs of form. I might investigate. > > 2009/2/9 Morris, Lee SGT > >> I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the moment >> its the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it would be all >> over. Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some tough games >> coming up. >> -- >> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Steven Millward >> *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44 >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question >> >> I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and >> Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. >> The cashing pack are closing in. >> >> >> >> At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. >> >> He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players >> and most of the fans. >> >> Today he'll be sacked. >> >> Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? >> Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do >> with their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked >> so that they get the full contract paid out? >> >> >> >> >> 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry >> >>> we've got as much chance
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
but surely any assumptions you make about a potential future league
position must take note of current, recent and past trends (form).
Trends are used in pretty much every aspect of our lives to try and help
us understand future possible outcomes, whether that be weather, stock
markets, mortality, morbidity, commodity prices, house prices etc etc.
Whilst our early season form was good and other teams not so good, the
recent form of Wolves have given no indication that we are about to
improve our current form or even replicate our early season form. As
such, it is not unrealistic to assume that we could continue our
downward trend, whilst at the same time other teams will continue with
their improved form. History tells us that at some point our form
should return and the forecast will look better, but the same could be
said of the stockmarket; we know that it will improve but we know that
it won't be soon because there are no positive trends currently being
shown. The same applies to Wolves.
Until we see, read, hear evidence that our form is improving, I fear for
our promotion aspirations.
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
I take a statistical view that the nth best team over the season will
finish nth.
The problem with football is that performance is clumpy. We'd be on the
same points now if some of the recent losses had been mixed in with the
two seven game streaks. It just looks bad when we were better at the
start than we are now.
My point is I try not to worry about changes in form too much. I still
think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than
Brum but perhaps not better than Reading
I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough
level to get promoted. Of course there are plenty of teams such as
Cardiff and Watford that have proven me wrong, although I don't think
either of them were at the top at this stage having been so for four
months.
I'm responsing to your point below. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed
statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about
poor runs of form. I might investigate.
2009/2/9 Morris, Lee SGT
I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the
moment its the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it
would be all over. Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some
tough games coming up.
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question
I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham
and Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly
too. The cashing pack are closing in.
At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager.
He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the
players and most of the fans.
Today he'll be sacked.
Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep
his job? Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it
something to do with their contracts that they have to seem surprised
when they are sacked so that they get the full contract paid out?
2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry
we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion
as England have of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something
close to absolutely F all).
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Rita
Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Merlin question
Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England
cricket team?
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[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
I take a statistical view that the nth best team over the season will finish nth. The problem with football is that performance is clumpy. We'd be on the same points now if some of the recent losses had been mixed in with the two seven game streaks. It just looks bad when we were better at the start than we are now. My point is I try not to worry about changes in form too much. I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. Of course there are plenty of teams such as Cardiff and Watford that have proven me wrong, although I don't think either of them were at the top at this stage having been so for four months. I'm responsing to your point below. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. 2009/2/9 Morris, Lee SGT > I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the moment its > the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it would be all over. > Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some tough games coming up. > -- > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44 > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question > > I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading > fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The > cashing pack are closing in. > > > > At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. > > He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players > and most of the fans. > > Today he'll be sacked. > > Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why > do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with > their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so > that they get the full contract paid out? > > > > > 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry > >> we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have >> of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to >> absolutely F all). >> >> -- >> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Rog & Rita >> *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM >> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [NSWolves] Merlin question >> >> Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? >> >> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this >> email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee >> the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions >> expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of >> Macquarie. >> >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
Have we been sussed out as the one dimensional team we all new we were, or are players out of for? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 13:01 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified] we have some tough games and also the nice buffer that we had over the chasing pack is reducing very quickly (as pointed out by Steven) Hopefully once Berra has had a few games to build partnerships he can help stabilise the defence, but Molineux Mix seems to say that all of the defenders are struggling, even Ward who up until recently has been superb. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 1:54 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified] I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the moment its the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it would be all over. Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some tough games coming up. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The cashing pack are closing in. At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players and most of the fans. Today he'll be sacked. Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so that they get the full contract paid out? 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to absolutely F all). From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Rita Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Merlin question Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
we have some tough games and also the nice buffer that we had over the chasing pack is reducing very quickly (as pointed out by Steven) Hopefully once Berra has had a few games to build partnerships he can help stabilise the defence, but Molineux Mix seems to say that all of the defenders are struggling, even Ward who up until recently has been superb. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 1:54 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified] I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the moment its the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it would be all over. Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some tough games coming up. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The cashing pack are closing in. At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players and most of the fans. Today he'll be sacked. Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so that they get the full contract paid out? 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to absolutely F all). From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Rita Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Merlin question Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question [sec=unclassified]
I said a while back that it was all or nothing with MM. At the moment its the latter...Good job we had a bit of a lead otherwise it would be all over. Things need to turn around quickly, but we have some tough games coming up. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 12:44 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Merlin question I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The cashing pack are closing in. At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players and most of the fans. Today he'll be sacked. Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so that they get the full contract paid out? 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to absolutely F all). From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Rita Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Merlin question Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question
I imagine there are similar comments being made by Birmingham and Reading fans. We're lucky at the moment that they are playing badly too. The cashing pack are closing in. At least we don't have Tony Adams as manager. He said on Friday that he had the full support of the board, the players and most of the fans. Today he'll be sacked. Is he so stupid that he genuinely though he was going to keep his job? Why do football managers do this again and again? Is it something to do with their contracts that they have to seem surprised when they are sacked so that they get the full contract paid out? 2009/2/9 Marcus Chantry > we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have > of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to > absolutely F all). > > -- > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Rog & Rita > *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [NSWolves] Merlin question > > Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? > > The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this > email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee > the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions > expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of > Macquarie. > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Merlin question
we've got as much chance of winning automatic promotion as England have of winning the Ashes back this year (which is something close to absolutely F all). From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Rita Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:24 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Merlin question Was he in Jamaica over the weekend advising the England cricket team? The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
