Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Paul Tremblay wrote: another option is to fetch cont-pat.zip from our website and install that one in the same texmf tree as context; run mktexlsr, and regenerate the formats (with --all option) i'd appreciate feedback about this working or not (since it's step 1 towards shipping context with

[NTG-context] yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working)

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello folks, http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is because I run yet another ConTeXt mirror at http://mirror.contextgarden.net You all know that

[NTG-context] Temporarily turning off hyphenation?

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
I haven't been able to find information about temporarily turning off hyphenation. Can it be done? (This is for a non-justified quote at the start of a chapter) G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl

Re: [NTG-context] yet another mirror (was: hyphenation not working)

2005-03-19 Thread VnPenguin
On 19 Mar 2005 11:11:52 +0100, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-pat.zip Thanks. It wasn't on the download page, though, right? I don't know, since I looked directly into the file structure. That is because I run yet

Re: [NTG-context] yet another mirror

2005-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
The virtual directories (/dir and /exalogin) cannot be mirrored at the moment. The same problem occurs at htpp://context.aanhet.net Greetings, Taco VnPenguin wrote: On 19 Mar 2005 11:11:52 +0100, Patrick Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks,

Re: [NTG-context] Temporarily turning off hyphenation?

2005-03-19 Thread Peter Münster
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Gerben Wierda wrote: I haven't been able to find information about temporarily turning off hyphenation. Can it be done? (This is for a non-justified quote at the start of a chapter) \starttext {\hyphenpenalty 1 \input tufte } {\hyphenpenalty 1000 \input tufte }

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 09:03:08AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I downloaded the patterns file and unzipped it. It put the following directory in my texmf directory: .tex/context/patterns I then ran texhash. I then ran ./mktexlsr --all. At this point, you missed a step: texexec

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
At this point, you missed a step: texexec --make I re-ran the test and saved the output to a file. I opened the file and saw this: system (E-TEX) : [line 159] \ifcsname ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ger.tex loading : Germanic Languages language: patterns for nl

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
Mine does that as well, but somewhat deeper in the log file, it restarts loading patterns, like this: (./cont-fmt.tex language: patterns nl for nl loaded(n=1,e=texnansi,m=texnansi) (/home/taco/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-nl.pat) language: hyphenations nl for

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:58:10 -0500: 210 hyphenation exceptions Hyphenation trie of length 99454 has 4157 ops out of 35111 117 for language 34 31 for language 33 30 lines or so, counting down .. 265 for language 1 perhaps you also need to

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Paul, All of this must be maddening you by now. :'( system (E-TEX) : [line 159] \ifcsname ) (/usr/TeX/texmf/tex/context/base/lang-ger.tex loading : Germanic Languages language: patterns for nl not loaded language: patterns for en not loaded Mine does that as well, but

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test file? Can you strip it to its barest form? Here is the entire file. Luckily, it is very small. Thanks Paul % enable utf \enableregime[utf] % turn

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Paul Tremblay wrote: Yes, now that I look deeper down in my log file, I see the same. Oh well. I guess I'll have to live without hyphenation. Just when I thought I was getting somewhere. You are getting somewhere. The format files that have been created by texexec in that last 'texexec --make'

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Paul Tremblay said this at Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:20:10 -0500: So if I understand what you're saying, that suggests you do have the capability for hyphenation somewhere in your system. What is your test file? Can you strip it to its barest form? Here is the entire file. Luckily, it is very

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
You are getting somewhere. The format files that have been created by texexec in that last 'texexec --make' know how to hyphenate text. There is only one job left to do: making it so that 'texexec test' uses the right (new) format file (and not the old one). Without exact log files, I doubt I

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
That does show a fair bit of hyphenation, here. Taco says some wise things, and here are a couple things to insert at the beginning of your text that may help debug. (But, again, I'm no expert in this area.) \the\hyphenpenalty % (50 on my system) \showhyphenations{hypertextual} I

[NTG-context] Re: lack of hyphenation

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi, [language and hyphenation issues] [i can imagine that taco/patrick work out something for the mirror/wiki that unpacks the cont-tmf zip, tests format generation and missing things; kind of user download simulation] Actually I am doing something like this for some time now: I install

[NTG-context] Re: \def\sectionseparator{:}

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi, I am a bit clueless of what is meant here. Since I got an assignment (see below), I think I should be enlightened a bit. Or I refuse to do it ;-) (full quote not deleted) Peter Münster wrote: in core-sec.tex, I read: \def\sectionseparator{:} % was : but is now - I there any

[NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello out there, I don't quite understand how to use the even/odd keywords in setuplayout: \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[odd][width=5cm] \setuplayout[even][width=10cm] \starttext \dorecurse{20}{\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf} \stoptext has the same width

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Paul, [...] texexec : TeXExec 5.2.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004 tex : pdfeTeXk, 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) context : ver: 2005.01.31 cont-en : ver:

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Vit Zyka
Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello out there, I don't quite understand how to use the even/odd keywords in setuplayout: \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[odd][width=5cm] \setuplayout[even][width=10cm] \starttext \dorecurse{20}{\input knuth \endgraf \input tufte \endgraf}

[NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Vit, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello out there, I don't quite understand how to use the even/odd keywords in setuplayout: \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[odd][width=5cm] \setuplayout[even][width=10cm] \starttext \dorecurse{20}{\input knuth \endgraf \input

Re: [NTG-context] How do I create a table like this in ConTeXt?

2005-03-19 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Gerben, There are different options. first of all I would have a look into \bTABLE ...\eTABLE constructs see enatab.pdf manual. secondly you might use \starttabulate ..\stoptabulate look at MAPS22 Voorjaar 1999, pp 153. Willi Gerben Wierda wrote: In LaTeX, a tabular environment produces a

[NTG-context] Repost: Two problems with my chapter quote setup (Modified by Gerben Wierda)

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
I forgot one part at the end. Here it is again. I've got this in my environment file: \def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}} \ClearChapterQuote \def\ChQuoteFormat#1{\starttext% \startalignment[left]% \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\hyphenpenalty 1\em #1}%

[NTG-context] Mails of this mailing list

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Dear ConTeXters, I am still looking for the first emails of this list. The archive on http://archive.contextgarden.net is missing the first half year. If there is anybody out there (Tobias? Slavek?) who has them, please email me off list. Your help is *greatly* appreciated. Patrick (I can't

[NTG-context] Re: Two problems with my chapter quote setup

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Gerben, do you have a minimal source file to let us try out? Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: [NTG-context] Re: hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
What happens if you run texexec --make --alone and copy the cont-en.fmt (or whatever it is called now) into the 'correct' path? Or leave it in the path that your test file is in and try the \showhyphenations{hypertextual} again. Back from my rally. And, success! If I leave the

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
Hi Patrick, I would wonder if it can be possible since changing paragraph width from page to page is *very* complicated task in TeX. You are right, but we all know Hans, he does some things that are *very* complicated in TeX. And I see that part of my question has been answered

[NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Paul, And I see that part of my question has been answered before. It is a matter if \definelayout[odd], \definelayout[even] and alike. I was confused because Hans mentioned in this thread: \setuplayout[odd|even|pagenumber|yourownid] Which I can't get to work here. This should

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Paul, there should be some cont-en.fmt somewhere on your disk. Like /usr/local/texmf/web2c/context/cont-en.fmt, but this is just a wild guess. So you could copy your newly generated cont-en.fmt over the old one. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Two problems with my chapter quote setup

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
I will try to create one. How do I again put in a series of tufte? G On 19 Mar 2005, at 21:09, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Gerben, do you have a minimal source file to let us try out? Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing

[NTG-context] Re: Two problems with my chapter quote setup

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi, I will try to create one. How do I again put in a series of tufte? \dorecurse{20}{\input tufte \par} Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl

Re: [NTG-context] Repost: Two problems with my chapter quote setup (Modified by Gerben Wierda)

2005-03-19 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 19.03.2005 um 20:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda: \def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}} \ClearChapterQuote \def\ChQuoteFormat#1{\starttext% \startalignment[left]% \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\hyphenpenalty 1\em #1}% \stopnarrower\stopalignment\stoptext\blank}

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Two problems with my chapter quote setup

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
On 19 Mar 2005, at 21:09, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Gerben, do you have a minimal source file to let us try out? It seems not to be so simple to reproduce in a small file. It seems to be connected to the project structure. G ___ ntg-context mailing list

Re: [NTG-context] Re: hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
Hi Patrick On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 11:00:57PM +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: there should be some cont-en.fmt somewhere on your disk. Like /usr/local/texmf/web2c/context/cont-en.fmt, but this is just a wild guess. So you could copy your newly generated cont-en.fmt over the old one. Okay.

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Layout stuff

2005-03-19 Thread Paul Tremblay
There is, of course, \parshape. And I know that Hans does a lot of paragraph trickery (see for example coloumns). If you can get pages with different widths to work, please let me know! Like I said, I posted the problematic code in the wiki. It would be great to get this to work. Paul --

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation not working

2005-03-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Paul, [...] So everything works fine now. Good to hear. I assume that future versions of ConTeXt will install this file correctly? That should have been the case anyway. Can't tell you what went wrong. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Two problems with my chapter quote setup

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
I was unable to reproduce the problem in a small file. It does appear in a project structure. But I have an archive that displays the problem: http://mail.rna.nl/~gerben/problem-test.tar.gz G On 19 Mar 2005, at 21:09, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Gerben, do you have a minimal source file to let us

Re: [NTG-context] Repost: Two problems with my chapter quote setup (Modified by Gerben Wierda)

2005-03-19 Thread Gerben Wierda
On 19 Mar 2005, at 23:22, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 19.03.2005 um 20:42 schrieb Gerben Wierda: \def\ClearChapterQuote{\def\ChapterQuote{}} \ClearChapterQuote \def\ChQuoteFormat#1{\starttext% \startalignment[left]% \startnarrower[4*left] \noindent{\hyphenpenalty 1\em #1}%