Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread BPJ via ntg-context
Den ons 26 jan. 2022 09:44Otared Kavian via ntg-context skrev: > > > On 26 Jan 2022, at 00:17, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > > […] > > times (clocks) were definitely different per city > > Regarding the issue of the absolute necessity of defining a standard time > the book by Peter

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/26/2022 10:07 PM, jbf via ntg-context wrote: Just be careful, though (writing as a native English speaker), because the word 'polymath' for English speaker is not a reference to mathematicians at all. (Greek/mathē/ means 'learning' not mathematics). Translators are well aware of the

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread jbf via ntg-context
Just be careful, though (writing as a native English speaker), because the word 'polymath' for English speaker is not a reference to mathematicians at all. (Greek/mathē/ means 'learning' not mathematics). Translators are well aware of the danger of homonyms, and if you go for a title like

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/26/2022 10:23 AM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: In line with what Otared writes about the measurement of distances in the context of Persia and ancient Rome, I am always very surprised to see the precision of the measurements in the evaluation of the circumference of the

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
In line with what Otared writes about the measurement of distances in the context of Persia and ancient Rome, I am always very surprised to see the precision of the measurements in the evaluation of the circumference of the earth by Eratosthenes of Cyrene. What intrigues me is not really the

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/26/2022 9:41 AM, Otared Kavian via ntg-context wrote: On 26 Jan 2022, at 00:17, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: […] times (clocks) were definitely different per city Regarding the issue of the absolute necessity of defining a standard time the book by Peter Galison « Einstein’s

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-26 Thread Otared Kavian via ntg-context
> On 26 Jan 2022, at 00:17, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > […] > times (clocks) were definitely different per city Regarding the issue of the absolute necessity of defining a standard time the book by Peter Galison « Einstein’s Clocks, Poincaré’s Maps » gives some interesting insight.

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/25/2022 8:41 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 25.01.22 um 18:45 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 1/25/2022 6:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Some of the units, particularly for measurement of land area, are still in use as they are effectively codified

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/25/2022 8:28 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Ah, of course. So “normalization” to some ruler’s shoe size was already progress. I'm not that sure if shoes are really standardized (or fashion in general ... bachotex polish xxl differs from us xxl and dutch xxl and ... i

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
As you know, there were very variable measurement systems in Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire, depending on the region within the same country. It is difficult to say precisely why political unity, when there was one in a given country, did not make it possible to systematize the use

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 25.01.22 um 18:45 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 1/25/2022 6:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Some of the units, particularly for measurement of land area, are still in use as they are effectively codified in the land records. Wikipedia has some summary of the ancient

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 25.01.22 um 18:27 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: why didn’t "we" stick to the Roman system? All you need to do is look at the definitions of roman imperial units to understand why we didn't stick to that: An inch was the width of

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/25/2022 6:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context wrote: Some of the units, particularly for measurement of land area, are still in use as they are effectively codified in the land records. Wikipedia has some summary of the ancient and medieval systems in India.

Re: [NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > Hi all, > just out of curiosity and since some of you are knowledgable in many > fields: Were there widely accepted measuring systems in Asia before the > introduction of the imperial or metric system? In Europe there was a >

[NTG-context] OT world history: other measuring systems?

2022-01-25 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Hi all, just out of curiosity and since some of you are knowledgable in many fields: Were there widely accepted measuring systems in Asia before the introduction of the imperial or metric system? In Europe there was a mess of local miles, feet, cubits, inches etc.; why didn’t "we" stick to