[NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-06 Thread Patrick Gundlach
[...] We are in a fully programmable environment, and it is extremely unConTeXtish to hack the visual appearance. I am an XML author, so am pretty amazed to hear that one should not mix appearance and content in ConTeXt. Most of a ConTeXt document involves visual appearance. What is one

Re: [NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote: [...] We are in a fully programmable environment, and it is extremely unConTeXtish to hack the visual appearance. I am an XML author, so am pretty amazed to hear that one should not mix appearance and content in ConTeXt. Most of a ConTeXt document involves visual

[NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-06 Thread Patrick Gundlach
[...] remove indentation from a paragraph by saying \noindent. So every paragraph had a \noindent before the paragraph (instead of doing it right by saying \noindent0pt). And it was a long talking about teaching: a) it is \parindent=0pt, not \noindent=0pt b) the ConTeXt way is using

[NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-05 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Paul, Here's what I just figured out literally 10 minutes ago. It works, but it seems a bit of a hack. Is there a better way? a bit? a very huge bit. Assume that you have 200 footnotes in your text. Then change from 12pt fontsize to 10pt Bang! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki:

Re: [NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-05 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:28:01PM +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Here's what I just figured out literally 10 minutes ago. It works, but it seems a bit of a hack. Is there a better way? a bit? a very huge bit. Assume that you have 200 footnotes in your text. Then change from 12pt

[NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-05 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello, [most evil footnote hackery] Of course, that begs the question. Is there a better way? Sorry to say, but in this case, no solution would be much better than this solution. There is nothing(!) worse than mixing visual markup with logical markup this way. We are in a fully programmable

Re: [NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-05 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 06:17:39PM +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Sorry to say, but in this case, no solution would be much better than this solution. Really? Wow! So if if the requirements for some document are hanging indents footnotes, and I have asked how to do them on the mailing list,

[NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello, while we are at it, I played around (a bit) with \setupfootnotes but didn't get what I wanted to achieve: |text text text text text | |- (a shorter rule) | 1 hello | 2 footnote | 10 tenth footnote that | wraps like this

Re: [NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Hey, that's just the question I was going to ask! I played around some with margin= and margindistance=, but all I could achieve was getting the footnote ref typeset to the right, into the text of the note -- interesting, but not very useful. So is this possible? And: can we have a hanging

Re: [NTG-context] Re: customizing footnote numbers

2005-04-04 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:30:44PM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hey, that's just the question I was going to ask! I played around some with margin= and margindistance=, but all I could achieve was getting the footnote ref typeset to the right, into the text of the note -- interesting,