[NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based approach will make things

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question

2010-02-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Is there a setup option for this, or is a hack needed? I expect adding a \setuppublications[refcommand=num] just before the \completepublications will work. Best wishes, Taco And right you are! I should've thought of that myself!

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: I just ran into the same question. When using a citation style that doesn't quote the year (like refcommand=num), it seems more logical to drop the maybeyear letter. It seems to work setting \def\maybeyear{\gobbleoneargument} I haven't seen any side

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: The problem with redefining \maybeyear is that it affects all citations equally: when you have three Knuth records with the same year and two Tuftes with the same year in the database, then if you use only one of Knuths but both Tuftes, you

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: IMHO, bibtex should now generate keys such as Hoek2006a and Hoek2006b or authoryear references like Hoekwater (2006a) and Hoekwater (2006b), but it should not (!) append the a and b to the years in the bibliographic list itself. Actually, sometimes it should,

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: IMHO, bibtex should now generate keys such as Hoek2006a and Hoek2006b or authoryear references like Hoekwater (2006a) and Hoekwater (2006b), but it should not (!) append the a and b to the years in the

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
IMHO, bibtex should now generate keys such as Hoek2006a and Hoek2006b or authoryear references like Hoekwater (2006a) and Hoekwater (2006b), but it should not (!) append the a and b to the years in the bibliographic list itself. But I may be wrong here - what do you and other users say?

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: At first I was sure that (2006a) and (2006b) are the right answer for the list. Othewise how else could the user know which entry to look up when they see, say, Hoekwater (2006b) in the text? But I just figured out the answer to that

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: So question to Taco: maybe we need three options for maybeyear? 1. off [always] This is the one that is missing, yes? Because the \setuppublicationlist[maybeyear=off] is actually option 3. 2. on [always] 3. on for tags and authoryear etc., off for the

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-14 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Sep 10, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: [Taco: The reference to Knuth below comes out as (Knuth, 1981c) even though there are no other 1981 entries for Knuth cited in the text. Is that hard to fix given ConTeXt's way of dealing with bibtex, in that it just incorporates the entire

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Sanjoy, thanks for your rely. Of course you're quite right, this is the wau to go, and it works. But my question was imprecise because I did not mention what was causing the problem: I'm working with split bibliographies and want to refer in chapter 2 to an item already included in the

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Sanjoy, thanks for your rely. Of course you're quite right, this is the wau to go, and it works. But my question was imprecise because I did not mention what was causing the problem: I'm working with split bibliographies and want to refer in chapter 2 to an

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Sep 11, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: You can try this: \def\silentcite[#1]% {\bgroup \let\addthisref\gobbleoneargument \cite[#1]% \egroup} (untested). If that does not work, it is not possible. Taco Taco, thanks for the suggestion. It doesn't

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-11 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Thomas, Is it possible to refer to this raw counter across chapters? Not sure -- it is beyond my ConTeXt bib module competence, but I hope one of the resident experts has an idea... -Sanjoy `Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.' --Bertrand Russell, _War

Re: [NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: I need to repeat my experiments, but I think it worked to use simply \cite in the bibtex entry. Ah, here is one example. It uses xampl.bib, which comes with old distributions of ConTeXt (e.g. teTeX 3.0's distribution). Yeah, that's how I expected it to be done.

[NTG-context] YABQ (yet another bib question...)

2006-09-08 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
I'm pleased as punch with the new bib module and have been writing my new lists with it all day. There is one thing that I could not make work, and I wonder if it is possible at all. I have 2 entries: [1] Some collected volume [2] Some article, in: a journal [reprinted in [1]]. Is it