Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-17 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2020-01-17 um 09:41 schrieb Thomas Savary : > > Hraban : > > Since the current CG Journal is still "in progress", another article is > > welcome! > > Thank you for this offer. As I don’t like half-measures, I really want to do > it well, so I’m going to need a lot of time to collect histo

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-17 Thread Thomas Savary
Hraban : > Since the current CG Journal is still "in progress", another article is > welcome! Thank you for this offer. As I don’t like half-measures, I really want to do it well, so I’m going to need a lot of time to collect historical as well as recent examples, quotations, etc. and to write t

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Thomas Savary
Hans : > never seen them [thin spaces] in dutch ... Example from a book published in Haarlem, 1838, “Gedichten van Nicolaas Beets” — you will even see thin spaces before commas, like in France in the 17th-18th century. https://books.google.fr/books? id=s1BUcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&sour

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2020-01-15 um 16:10 schrieb Thomas Savary : > > Exactly. And this is precisely the thin space still required in French > publications. The main disagreement among French typographs (about twenty > years ago, at least) was about the fixed vs relative width of this thin space  > : put in Te

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Thomas Savary
Arthur : > I think it happened at about the same time for English. Before that > it was pretty universal. See > https://archive.org/details/worksbenjaminfr06spargoog/page/n12 for just one > example. > > (The thin space in that example is really thin! -- but it’s definitely > there) Exactly.

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:29:35AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Dutch typesetting had some rules for thin spaces in a transition period from > full spaces (early) to no spaces (modern). > > Much of this change happened in the (late) 19th century, so I guess it had > more to do with linotype/mo

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
> On 15 Jan 2020, at 10:15, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> By the way, thin spaces are not specific to French typography, historically >> speaking, since they seem to have been used everywhere in Europe for >> centuries — at least in England, Belgium, Germany and Italy (probably in the >> Netherland

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/14/2020 10:58 PM, Joseph wrote: Hello, With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of the text. Unfortunately so far I cannot provide a MWE so I am wondering if there is a way to trace

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/14/2020 11:25 PM, Thomas Savary wrote: Hello, dear list ! Joseph : > With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not > applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of Character-spacing for French punctuation marks is incorrect

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-14 Thread Thomas Savary
Hello, dear list ! Joseph : > With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not > applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of Character-spacing for French punctuation marks is incorrect in MkIV anyway : the “thin” spaces are much too wide.

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Joseph schrieb am 14.01.2020 um 22:58: Hello, With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of the text. Unfortunately so far I cannot provide a MWE so I am wondering if there is a way to tr

[NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-14 Thread Joseph
Hello, With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of the text. Unfortunately so far I cannot provide a MWE so I am wondering if there is a way to trace this to hopefully figure out what the prob