Re: [NTG-context] Patterns in natural tables as background?

En/na Hans Hagen ha escrit: On 23-5-2010 12:48, Xan wrote: Hi, Is possible to put patterns as background in natural tables (bTABLE... eTABLE)? I'm thinking in striped background, or squared background or something more "complicated" as: probably easy to do but i never looked into patterns so

Re: [NTG-context] Patterns in natural tables as background?

On 23-5-2010 12:48, Xan wrote: Hi, Is possible to put patterns as background in natural tables (bTABLE... eTABLE)? I'm thinking in striped background, or squared background or something more "complicated" as: probably easy to do but i never looked into patterns so far Hans --

[NTG-context] Patterns in natural tables as background?

Hi, Is possible to put patterns as background in natural tables (bTABLE... eTABLE)? I'm thinking in striped background, or squared background or something more "complicated" as: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/249/c/c/Scanline___screentone_patterns_by_C130.jpg The problem I see is that

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 24, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > It looks like your checkout is not complete (locally editted files?), > line 25 of libs/lua51/Makefile should now be a commented-out line: > > #COCOCFLAGS= -DCOCO_USE_SETJMP > > Best wishes, > Taco > Strange. I deleted the Makefile and let svn

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > mkdir -p ../../libs/lua51 && cd ../../libs/lua51 && cp -f ../../../src/ > texk/web2c/../../libs/lua51/* . && make posix > Makefile:25: *** missing separator. Stop. > make: *** [../../libs/lua51/liblua.a] Error 2 > > Hope this is nothing too serious... It looks like

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > I wouldn't say it was elementary, but it is fixed now. Sometime > later this week I will create a 0.30.3 (as this is a grave bug), > but if you want to verify: the fix is in the source repository > (#1576-1578). > > Best wishes, > Taco Hi Taco

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >> This must be a bug in luatex, hyphenation is supposed to be identical >> but the whole algorithm is redone, and obviously not flawlessly. >> >> It seems there is (at least) a problem with all patterns that are >>

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > This must be a bug in luatex, hyphenation is supposed to be identical > but the whole algorithm is redone, and obviously not flawlessly. > > It seems there is (at least) a problem with all patterns that are > supposed to end a word. For example

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > What I don't understand: doesn't mkiv/luatex use the same patterns > that XeTeX uses? Then why the deuce does it show different > hyphenation? For German users, this is pretty serious, a hyphenation > like "niedli-ch" is really bad and neither in traditional nor

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 22, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > My fear is that there could be some tiny difference in that > reimplementation of hyphenation algorithm. Most words hyphenate > properly and equally in both engines. This is the first > counter-example that I have seen. But that might be someth

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >>> I suspect >>> the error is not in lefthyphenmin and righthyphenmin, but in the >>> patterns themselves. Which patterns does mkiv actually use, and how >>> hav

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On Nov 22, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> what does xetex, pdftex, luatex report for: >> >> {\de \thelefthyphenmin blabla} > > \the\lefthyphenmin is 2 in all engines ok, luatex has a reimplemented hyphenation machinery so that may be a reason; another can be

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> I suspect >> the error is not in lefthyphenmin and righthyphenmin, but in the >> patterns themselves. Which patterns does mkiv actually use, and how >> have they been produced? > > It uses the patterns >`dehy

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 22, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > what does xetex, pdftex, luatex report for: > > {\de \thelefthyphenmin blabla} \the\lefthyphenmin is 2 in all engines ___ If your question is of interest to others as

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On Nov 22, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> PS: in LaTeX there is indeed a difference whether one uses pdfTeX or >> XeTeX/LuaTeX since the two engines load differente patterns, but in >> ConTeXt I see no reason for a different behaviour. > > Hmm, that's a ni

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 22, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > PS: in LaTeX there is indeed a difference whether one uses pdfTeX or > XeTeX/LuaTeX since the two engines load differente patterns, but in > ConTeXt I see no reason for a different behaviour. Hmm, that's a nice understatement :-) Fact is that

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> >> I suspect >> the error is not in lefthyphenmin and righthyphenmin, but in the >> patterns themselves. Which patterns does mkiv actually use, and how >> have they been produced?

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > I suspect > the error is not in lefthyphenmin and righthyphenmin, but in the > patterns themselves. Which patterns does mkiv actually use, and how > have they been produced? It uses the patterns `dehypht-x' 2008-06-18 (WL) Wait!!!

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> something fishy is going on with hyphenation patterns for German in >>> mkiv. Here's a minimal test file: >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> {\de \hyphenatedword{sich}} >>> >>> \sto

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

On Nov 22, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> something fishy is going on with hyphenation patterns for German in >> mkiv. Here's a minimal test file: >> >> \starttext >> >> {\de \hyphenatedword{sich}} >> >> \stoptext >> >> please compile with mkii an

Re: [NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > something fishy is going on with hyphenation patterns for German in > mkiv. Here's a minimal test file: > > \starttext > > {\de \hyphenatedword{sich}} > > \stoptext > > please compile with mkii and mkiv and see the difference. The word > should of cou

[NTG-context] patterns for German in mkiv

Hi all, something fishy is going on with hyphenation patterns for German in mkiv. Here's a minimal test file: \starttext {\de \hyphenatedword{sich}} \stoptext please compile with mkii and mkiv and see the difference. The word should of course not be hyphenated. All best Thomas __

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Willi Egger wrote: After running mktexlsr I started texmfstart cxtools --patternfiles all in the alpha-context/tex directory. All pat and hyp files where then transferred into a new directory ..\texmf-local\pattern. Again mktexlsr was run. btw, i just made a more clever loader (fallbacks and such

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Willi Egger wrote: After running mktexlsr I started texmfstart cxtools --patternfiles all in the alpha-context/tex directory. All pat and hyp files where then transferred into a new directory ..\texmf-local\pattern. Again mktexlsr was run. texmf-local\pattern is not in the searchpath, so either p

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Hi Hans, I set up a minimal Context with the mswintex.zip. The included Context was updated with the latest alpha cont-tmf.zip. After running mktexlsr I started texmfstart cxtools --patternfiles all in the alpha-context/tex directory. All pat and hyp files where then transferred into a new direc

[NTG-context] patterns

Hi, In order to get rid of the pattern problems (no consistency in internals, funny names, changing locations, changing names, etc) I decided to provide the option to use context 'specific' pattern files, although ... the pattern files have become quite generic and encoding independent. For tho

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:13:54 +0200: >>> So, what i need is for each language a couple of words that hyphenate >>> in unique ways (i.e. they must hyphenate differently than related >>> languages) This may be old news, but a quick Google turned up this TUGBoat on US vs UK:

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Vit Zyka wrote: Hans Hagen Outside wrote: So, what i need is for each language a couple of words that hyphenate in unique ways (i.e. they must hyphenate differently than related languages) \language[xx] \hyphenatedword{..} Sorry, Hans, I do not understand properly. You want the words 1) that ar

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

Hans Hagen Outside wrote: So, what i need is for each language a couple of words that hyphenate in unique ways (i.e. they must hyphenate differently than related languages) \language[xx] \hyphenatedword{..} Sorry, Hans, I do not understand properly. You want the words 1) that are the same in some

Re: [NTG-context] patterns

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:36:43 +0200, Hans wrote: > So, what i need is for each language a couple of words that hyphenate in > unique ways (i.e. they must hyphenate differently than related languages) \language[nl] \hyphenatedword{bijeenkomst} should do the trick for dutch, i hope "bij-een-kom

[NTG-context] patterns

Hi, The last few years we have encountered problems with changes in pattern files and names (dutch was dropped, czech was invalid, and us filenames also changed in undocumented ways). To get a bit more control over this can of worms, we need a test file that can be added to the tex live test su