Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs. LaTeX

2004-08-04 Thread Zeljko Vrba
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 11:09:01PM +0200, Siep Kroonenberg wrote: > > The right way to handle this would have been to copy just the > relevant code fragment to a package or classfile of your own and > modify it. The code would have looked a lot hackier than > corresponding Context code, but as lon

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Brooks Moses
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 12:51:13AM +0200, Hans Hagen Outside wrote: > so ... not you can write a myway about it -) I seem to have lost my link to the existing MyWays, if I ever had one. Where can I find them? Thanks, - Brooks ___ ntg-context mailing li

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen Outside
ishamid wrote: The commands are all listed in alphabetical order, which is great. But one good help would be an option ordering them by topic. For example, a while back I needed a rotation command, and the manual does not discuss many of the graphics capabilities of ConTeXt. I finally found \rot

RE: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread ishamid
Hi Patrick, One suggestion for TeXshow-web:-) The commands are all listed in alphabetical order, which is great. But one good help would be an option ordering them by topic. For example, a while back I needed a rotation command, and the manual does not discuss many of the graphics capabilities

Re: [NTG-context] "Animation" in slides (\presentationstep, metafun)

2004-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: 2.) filling-up a table This is a more complicated example and probably "playing with TeX" may be the only solution, but I'll ask anyway. I need to make something similar as, say, multiplication table or a table for dynamic programming calculation of minimum editing distance. T

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs. LaTeX

2004-08-04 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:58:48PM +0200, Zeljko Vrba wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 04:07:43PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if these are only the problems at the beginning (since I > > have to look for almost any command I use) and would soon disappear or > > would the gene

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs. LaTeX

2004-08-04 Thread Zeljko Vrba
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 04:07:43PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > I'm not sure if these are only the problems at the beginning (since I > have to look for almost any command I use) and would soon disappear or > would the general advice be "don't use ConTeXt if LaTeX suits your > needs". What are

Re: [NTG-context] EPS/PDF import and \underbrace in metaplay

2004-08-04 Thread Vit Zyka
Mojca Miklavec wrote: 1.) EPS/PDF import How do I make an existing EPS or PDF image a part of some other meta[post/play] graphic? Use externalfigure (Metafun manual, 8.4 Including graphics) 2.) \underbrace I wrote the following two macros for drawing braces in graphics: \def\underbracedescription#

[NTG-context] EPS/PDF import and \underbrace in metaplay

2004-08-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
I have two questions cencerning metapost/metaplay: 1.) EPS/PDF import How do I make an existing EPS or PDF image a part of some other meta[post/play] graphic? 2.) \underbrace I wrote the following two macros for drawing braces in graphics: \def\underbracedescription#1#2{$\underbrace{\hbox{\vrule

[NTG-context] ConTeXt vs. LaTeX

2004-08-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
At the very first moment I saw some manuals I was highly impressed of what ConTeXt was able to do and decided to switch from LaTeX to the new typesetting system. I've put (probably to much) effort to typeset my first presentation and a couple of other documents in ConTeXt after which I realised tha

[NTG-context] "Animation" in slides (\presentationstep, metafun)

2004-08-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
I would first like to apologise for this "flooding" of the mailing list with some questions I can't tackle with alone. It's just a mixture of opinions and questions I came accross in the last month while making first steps into ConTeXt and I wrote them all at once. I'll appreciate any suggestio

Re: [NTG-context] new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello, Floris van Manen wrote: i would opt for a better 'result-ready' flag (e.g. providing the link to the result) instead of opening a log file that is of not too much interest when everything went OK. How about something like that: Show an intermediate page with a reload HTTP header which cal

Re: [NTG-context] new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Floris van Manen
Patrick, just gave the context service a try. concerning the UI i aks myself why i get default the logfile opened in a separate window and that i have to explicitly open the pdf file to see the result of what the action is all about in the first place :-) i would opt for a better 'result-ready' f

[NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Mojca, > Here is what I wrote yesterday, but haven't sent yet :) > Did I send this accidentaly ? :) :) :) No, but my looking-forward-in-time-gadget sent me a copy of your message ;-) > It's a great service, it would just make sense to connect the wiki and > code rendering, so that the code

[NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
[...] >>I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the >>next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.) >> > best send such patches to me, or maybe collect them as comment so that > they can be fed back to me Hans I collect all the change

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-) This also raises anot

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Vit Zyka
Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello Vit, Well, I have receieved your message, but was too busy on context-live. Your message is still in my inbox and I will work on texshow-web this week. Your suggestion is not that trivial, since I > ... > Patrick All right, I understand that. > > \definelayer[name][...

[NTG-context] texshow-web

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Taco, > This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax >definition is wrong? > > The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is > \about [ref] > not > \about {text} [ref] > > I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the > nex

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
http://live.contextgarden.net one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater
> Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I > want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in > texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's > annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-) This also raises another problem: what t

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Vit Zyka wrote: > i have noticed that the next group of macros is missing in the > texshow-web: > \definelayer[name][...,=,...] > \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text} > Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it? i have to do that to the main file; since layers are relatively new i

[NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Vit, > Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I > want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in > texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's > annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-) > > OK, I ask here in the list aga

Re: [NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Vit Zyka
http://live.contextgarden.net one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would

[NTG-context] Re: new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello, > http://live.contextgarden.net one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't rely on your impression that others will do so, so t

[NTG-context] new stuff for brave users

2004-08-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Dear ConTeXt users, I have started another service. Please note that this is not finished yet and might change or get out of service once in a while (I have no experience with such a service). You can process your ConTeXt documents online. Just point your browser to http://live.contextgarden.net

Re: [NTG-context] Bug report, \frac as redefined in m-newmat.tex

2004-08-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi Brooks, Then, a couple of lines after that, there's the second definition for \frac, which is the one that needed patching. This one, unlike the first definition, is wrapped in \mathematics so that it can work outside math mode. So I'm wondering why only \frac has this second definition that al