Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread VnPenguin
On 1/21/06, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm uploading the next version.

Just tested.

...
 ){/work/apps/teTeX/share/texmf-local/fonts/enc/dvips/vntex/t5.enc}
Output written on test-gentium.pdf (1 page, 25034 bytes).
Transcript written on test-gentium.log.

The glyph "dcroat" was not found :( I think there is problem in
Gentium fonts with this glyph.

Thank you,
Regards,

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[NTG-context] Dropped caps, \startlines\stoplines, and indentation question

2006-01-21 Thread Adrian Drury
Hello,

I'm having trouble using dropped caps within \startlines\stoplines.
I'm trying to typeset some poetry and I'm using
\setuplines[space=yes]. I'd like to use dropped caps and have the
indented lines be additionally indented by any space at the beginning
of the lines.

See the following example - the first part shows roughly the result I
want (but with manual formatting/spacing), the second part shows the
result of \DroppedCaps inside \startlines\stoplines, and the third
part uses the lettrine module. The lettrine module comes close, but
Nindent doesn't seem to affect the indented lines within
\startlines\stoplines.

\usemodule[lettrine]
\def\MyDroppedCaps%
{   \DroppedCaps
{} {Serif} {2\baselineskip} {2pt} {1\baselineskip} {2}
}
\setuplines[space=yes]

\starttext
\MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in,\crlf
\hbox to .6em{}Lhude sing cuccu!\crlf
Groweth sed, and bloweth med,\crlf
\hbox to .6em{}And springth the wude nu---\crlf
\hbox to 3.3em{}Sing cuccu!

\startlines
\MyDroppedCaps S{\sc umer} is icumen in,
  Lhude sing cuccu!
Groweth sed, and bloweth med,
  And springth the wude nu---
  Sing cuccu!
\stoplines

\startlines
\lettrine{S}{umer} is icumen in,
  Lhude sing cuccu!
Groweth sed, and bloweth med,
  And springth the wude nu---
  Sing cuccu!
\stoplines
\stoptext

Any suggestions for how to do this? I'm a beginning ConTeXt user, so
if there's a better/different way to do this, I'd be happy to hear it!

Also, I read the list in digest form. For the benefit of people using
threaded mail readers, is there a better way to reply to individual
messages than replying to the digest message and editing the Subject
line appropriately?

Thanks very much,
Adrian Drury
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Re: [NTG-context] SciTE Setup in Windows and .rb scripts

2006-01-21 Thread Hooman Javidnia
Hi

This is still in the same line as my effort to make SciTE work flawlessly
with ConTeXt. Accoridng to Hans's last email on the subject, I thought
that I have to install Lua and Python on my Win XP machine too. So I
did. Lua seems to be a very small program. Am I right? I installed
version 5.1 for Win32 and it has only 4 files, of which 3 are .exe files
and one is a .dll. In my try to make things to work, now even my TeX files
don't compile. 

The structure of my files is like this:

1) context.properties is in the same path as SciTEUser.properties and the
latter file has only one line in it: import context
2) All other context-*-scite.properties files are in the main folder of
SciTE. 
3) I noticed that there should be come file scite-ctx.properties in one of
the directories. I have put it in the main SciTE folder. Is that the right
place?
4) Isn't there some other ctx files that should be copied to the main
SciTE folder? Where can I get those? I didn't find those in the MikTeX
implementation on my machine?
5) As soon as I press F7 in the output view I get:
>texmfstart concheck.rb myfile.tex
unknown file type: texmfscripts
>Exit code: 0
No output is being generated.

Sorry to take your time with this issue. It might sound simple to some
people, but it actually isn't that simple. I will write about my
experiences later on when I am done with the setup.

Thanks.

-hooman
 



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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-21 um 23:13 schrieb VnPenguin:


1. In the file t5-sil-gentium.map, I see:
-- 


t5-raw-genai101 GentiumAlt-Italic 4 < genai101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genar101 GentiumAlt 4 < genar101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-geni101 Gentium-Italic 4 < geni101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genr101 Gentium 4 < genr101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genai102 GentiumAlt-Italic 4 < genai102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-genar102 GentiumAlt 4 < genar102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-geni102 Gentium-Italic 4 < geni102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-genr102 Gentium 4 < genr102.pfb t5.enc
-- 
-

Why 1.01 ttf are still there ? And why 1.02 PFB while there are only
TTF in your package ?


texfont never deletes a mapfile - it writes not only a .bak, but also  
only appends entries, even if the old stuff is wrong...
Additionally, it always writes entries for PFB files, even if there  
are only TTF. A known bug (at least for me), but sometimes I forget  
to fix that.


Ok, I'm uploading the next version.

2. I don't think that files fonts.cache-1 are necessary for  
ConTeXt :-)


You're right, but they don't hurt also ;-)

I tried to config pango/fontconfig of my LilyPond installation so  
that it also finds TeX fonts.

Until now it only writes these cache files, but never uses the fonts...

At the moment I'm struggling with a font that uses different names in  
PFB, AFM and else. Chaos!

It doesn't even provide accentes characters. I guess I'll drop it.

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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread VnPenguin
On 1/21/06, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I missed that update. Just downloaded it and created the files
> anew (now online), but no change.
> I guess the strike-through d should be in slot 31; probably an
> encoding problem.
> I guess I should update ConTeXt, another encoding problem in ec was
> fixed.
>

Just tried your new package.
1. In the file t5-sil-gentium.map, I see:
--
t5-raw-genai101 GentiumAlt-Italic 4 < genai101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genar101 GentiumAlt 4 < genar101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-geni101 Gentium-Italic 4 < geni101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genr101 Gentium 4 < genr101.ttf t5.enc
t5-raw-genai102 GentiumAlt-Italic 4 < genai102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-genar102 GentiumAlt 4 < genar102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-geni102 Gentium-Italic 4 < geni102.pfb t5.enc
t5-raw-genr102 Gentium 4 < genr102.pfb t5.enc
---
Why 1.01 ttf are still there ? And why 1.02 PFB while there are only
TTF in your package ?

2. I don't think that files fonts.cache-1 are necessary for ConTeXt :-)
$ unzip -l sil-gentium.zip | grep fonts.cache
0  08-10-05 11:50   fonts/afm/sil/gentium/fonts.cache-1
0  08-10-05 11:51   fonts/tfm/sil/gentium/fonts.cache-1
 3334  08-10-05 11:51   fonts/truetype/sil/gentium/fonts.cache-1
0  08-10-05 11:53   fonts/vf/sil/gentium/fonts.cache-1

Thank for your work,
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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Sorry, I missed that update. Just downloaded it and created the  
files anew (now online), but no change.
I guess the strike-through d should be in slot 31; probably an  
encoding problem.
I guess I should update ConTeXt, another encoding problem in ec was  
fixed.


It didn't help, 'dcroat' is still missing.

Ok, I tracked it down: The tool that creates AFMs from TTFs, that is  
called by texfont, doesn't get all characters!
I opened the font files with FontForge and wrote AFMs with that, now  
it works (same with Junicode).

A new upload will follow in some minutes.


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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[NTG-context] AutoDroppedCaps and indenting

2006-01-21 Thread Joshua Ellis
This may be a silly question, but it appears the use of \AutoDroppedCaps 
(or \DroppedCaps) causes indenting settings to do away.  For example:



\AutoDroppedCaps
\setupwhitespace[none]
\setupinterlinespace[small]
\setupindenting[medium]
\indenting[yes]


\starttext

Para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1
blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para blah blah blah para 1 blah 
blah blah para 1 blah blah blah para 1 blah blah blah


Para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2
blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah 
blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah para 2 blah blah blah


Para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3
blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah 
blah blah para 3 blah blah blah para 3 blah blah blah


\stoptext
=

Without \AutoDroppedCaps each paragraph is indented as expected.  With 
\AutoDroppedCaps, none of the paragraphs are indented.  If 
\AutoDroppedCaps is enabled, if I place \indenting[yes] immediately 
after the first word of the first paragraph (so it looks like "Para 
\indenting[yes] 1"), then the 3rd paragraph is indented, but the second 
one is still flush-left.


Any ideas?

Thanks,
-joshua


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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-21 um 20:26 schrieb VnPenguin:


Ok, Gentium is now online including t5 encoding. (That's not yet
mentioned on the page.)


Just tested your package. I loss a glyph which I dont know the name.
Its shot is at :
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/shots/gentium-dd.png

It seems that you use Gentium 1.01. With Gentium 1.02 in my box, I
could use this glyph no problem (the shot was done with Gentium 1.02
in Leafpad editor).

I try to replace your ttf by 1.02 release by modifying map file. But
this does not help. Maybe we need to recreate files with 1.02 ?


Sorry, I missed that update. Just downloaded it and created the files  
anew (now online), but no change.
I guess the strike-through d should be in slot 31; probably an  
encoding problem.
I guess I should update ConTeXt, another encoding problem in ec was  
fixed.


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (glyph lossed with Gentium in T5)

2006-01-21 Thread VnPenguin
On 1/21/06, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> Ok, Gentium is now online including t5 encoding. (That's not yet
> mentioned on the page.)
>

Just tested your package. I loss a glyph which I dont know the name.
Its shot is at :
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/shots/gentium-dd.png

It seems that you use Gentium 1.01. With Gentium 1.02 in my box, I
could use this glyph no problem (the shot was done with Gentium 1.02
in Leafpad editor).

I try to replace your ttf by 1.02 release by modifying map file. But
this does not help. Maybe we need to recreate files with 1.02 ?

Thank you,

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems installing Gentium TTF

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-21 um 17:56 schrieb Kumar Appaiah:


from texexec. I have installed the fonts with --en=ec, so that is
ruled out. What could the problem be?


I don't know where your problems come from.
You could just try using the package from my site:
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4

Don't forget to texhash!

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Re: [NTG-context] setupheadertexts + kap/uppercase

2006-01-21 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello,

Sebastian Rooks schrieb:
> Did you try with a \fetchmark[chapter][first] as explained on the wiki ?
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Headers_and_Footers , section 2 "Using
> capitals"

That indeed worked. (I looked at ConTeXtgarden, but I seemingly missed
the right keyword in my search :-( shame on me.)

Anyway, \uppercase have some problems. I get with
---
\enableregime[utf]
\setupheadertexts[][{\expanded{\uppercase{\fetchmark[chapter][first]}}}]

\starttext
\chapter{Einführung} % EINFÜHRUNG
\uppercase{ÄÖÜäöüß} % should be ÄÖÜÄÖÜSS
\stoptext
---

"ÄÖÜÄÖüß" ("üß" should be "ÜSS") and in the header I get "EINFßHRUNG".

Tobias

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Re: [NTG-context] \setupindenting & \chapter indention

2006-01-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Tobias Burnus wrote:

Hello,

I want to have:

aa
aa
   bbb
b

That is: The second paragraph being indented. I tried:
-
\setupindenting[next,yes,big]


Ordering matters, it seems. Try this:

  \setupindenting[next,big,yes]

Don't know about that other problem.


In addition, I have the problem that
--
\chapter{foo}
bar
--
is printed as
|  1 foo
|bar


No such problem here (and I also use the 01.16 version).

Cheers, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] setupheadertexts + kap/uppercase

2006-01-21 Thread Sebastian Rooks

Hello,

Did you try with a \fetchmark[chapter][first] as explained on the wiki ?

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Headers_and_Footers , section 2 "Using 
capitals"


Yours,

  SeB

Tobias Burnus a écrit :

Hello,

I think I have a expand problem.

I want to have
 
\setupheadertexts[pagenumber][{\getmarking[chapter][current]}][section][pagenumber]

with the chapter in \uppercase/\kaps. The problem is that
adding a \uppercase or  \kap before the {\getmarking} ends up with
nothing and all my attemps with expand* ended up with either the same
result or with a TeX error message.

Using \setupheader[style=kap] (or =cap) does not work - as TeX bails out:
! Undefined control sequence.
\p!doifinstringelse ...ifinstringelse #2#1}@@\war

Any idea how to solve this?

Tobias

PS: I just saw that I asked the same question two years ago (15 January
2004):
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg02175.html
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[NTG-context] \setupindenting & \chapter indention

2006-01-21 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello,

I want to have:

aa
aa
   bbb
b

That is: The second paragraph being indented. I tried:
-
\setupindenting[next,yes,big]

\starttext
fajkhfkldjglfd

FJHDLKSGJLKDS
\stoptext


but both paragraphs as not indented.

 * * *

In addition, I have the problem that
--
\chapter{foo}
bar
--
is printed as
|  1 foo
|bar
i.e. the "1 foo" starts too far at the right

* * *

The first problem I also see using http://live.contextgarden.net/, the
other not. (My ConTeXt is newer though, 2006.01.16 18:35).

Tobias
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[NTG-context] Problems installing Gentium TTF

2006-01-21 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Hello! I am tryingto install the Gentium True type fonts, following
the instructions at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installing_a_TrueType_font%2C_step_by_step

Everything went of well, and I was also able to get the pages of
glyphs from the tests. However, when I try to get the test document
provided at the end of that page to work, I get:

bodyfont: unknown variant MyGentium

from texexec. I have installed the fonts with --en=ec, so that is
ruled out. What could the problem be?

Thanks.

Kumar
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[NTG-context] setupheadertexts + kap/uppercase

2006-01-21 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello,

I think I have a expand problem.

I want to have
 
\setupheadertexts[pagenumber][{\getmarking[chapter][current]}][section][pagenumber]
with the chapter in \uppercase/\kaps. The problem is that
adding a \uppercase or  \kap before the {\getmarking} ends up with
nothing and all my attemps with expand* ended up with either the same
result or with a TeX error message.

Using \setupheader[style=kap] (or =cap) does not work - as TeX bails out:
! Undefined control sequence.
\p!doifinstringelse ...ifinstringelse #2#1}@@\war

Any idea how to solve this?

Tobias

PS: I just saw that I asked the same question two years ago (15 January
2004):
http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg02175.html
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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (was: palatino fonts)

2006-01-21 Thread VnPenguin
On 1/21/06, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, Gentium is now online including t5 encoding. (That's not yet
> mentioned on the page.)

cool! I'll try it :)

Thank you so much,
Regards,

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[NTG-context] Subtle problem with startformula

2006-01-21 Thread David Arnold

All,

If you're not aware of this one, consider:

\placeformula[-]
\startformula
  [-2,2)=\{x:\, -2\le x < 2\}.
\stopformula

Won't compile, but try:

\placeformula[-]
\startformula\relax
  [-2,2)=\{x:\, -2\le x < 2\}.
\stopformula
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Re: [NTG-context] last natural table column longer

2006-01-21 Thread Vit Zyka

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hi Vit,

Vit Zyka wrote:


Hello Wizards,

my multi page (and multicolumn) table exceeds the last page by 2 rows. 
Is there a way to make last column a bit longer? Here is a minimal 
example:



The underlying problem is that you have to enlarge the height of
page 2. I don't know how that is 'normally' done, but perhaps it
gives someone else a hint ?


Answer to my own question:

Question:
  Imagine a table (\bTABLE) spanning several pages. Moreover the table 
is inside multicolumn (\startcolumn). How to make some column longer 
(having more rows in some column)? (Column height is given by page height.)


Solution:

1. Make page heigher (as high as the highest column) on every page where 
the table is:

   \setuplayout[lines=..]

2. Insert blank rows to appropriate table places to fill the columns:
   \dorecurse{..}{\bTR\bTD\strut\eTD\eTR}

Remarks:
1. \adaptlayout{page}{height=+...} has limited capability of making page 
heigher (not overcomes footer) so \setuplayout is more flexible.


2. Forsing column break by
 \bTR[after=\column]\bTD...\eTD\eTR
   works but add some spurious space on the top of next column. I was 
not able to remove it even experimenting with my own

 \installcolumnbreakhandler {MUL} {forse} {...}
and using
 \bTR[after={\columnbreak[forse]}]\bTD...\eTD\eTR
Spurious space demonstration:
--
\startbuffer[table]
\bTABLE[split=yes]
  \dorecurse{20}{\bTR\bTD cell #1\eTD\eTR}
  \bTR[after={\columnbreak[yes]}]\bTD between \eTD\eTR
  \dorecurse{100}{\bTR\bTD cell #1\eTD\eTR}
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer

\starttext
\startcolumns
  \getbuffer[table]
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
--

Vit
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Re: [NTG-context] font encodings (was: palatino fonts)

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5  
encoding ? :)
We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice,  
Abiword,)

and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :)


My type scripts always use \defaultencoding - that's not always the  
best,

but mostly... (One could use a list of appropriate encodings instead.)

I don't yet provide support files for t5 encoding, only ex,  
texnansi and qx.
But it would be no problem to make them for Gentium (and other  
fonts that

contain the glyphs).

But I must think about a better structure of my fonts list before...
(http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4)


Ok, Gentium is now online including t5 encoding. (That's not yet  
mentioned on the page.)


Now, Gentium also contains Greek glyphs, and some other fonts contain  
Cyrillic.
Which encoding should I provide for these scripts? (Only one for  
each, if possible!)


Is there any way how I could automatically detect, how much of some  
encoding a font covers?
E.g. check a font (TTF, OTF, AFM?) against texnansi, ec, qx, t5,  
t2a... and make the files for it if most of the slots could be filled.


Something completely different: I'm looking for an idea how I could  
automatically create a small font preview (one line) as a bitmap.


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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts

2006-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2006-01-20 um 21:29 schrieb VnPenguin:

The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long
time.



With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5  
encoding ? :)

We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice, Abiword,)
and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :)


My type scripts always use \defaultencoding - that's not always the  
best,

but mostly... (One could use a list of appropriate encodings instead.)

I don't yet provide support files for t5 encoding, only ex, texnansi  
and qx.
But it would be no problem to make them for Gentium (and other fonts  
that

contain the glyphs).

But I must think about a better structure of my fonts list before...
(http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4)


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] lijgatures in LM

2006-01-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Hello, (the Dutch team),

Is it possible to prevent the "IJ" ligature in ec encoding in LM fonts
in ConTeXt somehow (except with manual intervention in every word
containing IJ)? I checked the behaviour in LaTeX with
\usepackage[T1]{inputenc} with the default font (some kind of Type 1
CM, but not LM), but it seems that only LM changes I and J to a
ligature (grrr ...). With the font in LaTeX it works OK.


You can do this (only works in pdftex):

  \definefonthandling [noij][noij][type=tag]
   \startfonthandling[noij]
  \settagcode I {\notagcode}
  \settagcode i {\notagcode}
  \stopfonthandling
   \enablehandling[noij]

Be warned that this also destroys any kerning info for the I and i.
Not a big problem in this case (the number of kernings is minimal)
but something to watch out for in general.

 Cheers, Taco
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