Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > Granted. The main point is that we have to reinterpret bidi in way that > fits with TeX's/ConTeXt's needs, idiosyncracies, etc I don't believe > we need to treat the unicode bidi algorithm as canonical. i think that we should stick to things that make sense; with tex we're often talking of tagged sources and anything ambiguous should be tagged; in a sense this is not even related to arab at all, take an url ... i can imagine an url-algorithm, but it could never be perfect (just see what some programs that try to do it sometimes make of it) if for instance ( ) are officially not symbols but open/close thingies, then we need to deal with them (although i then wonder why we have no proper open/close code point for them instead of reusing the ascii () which have for users some expected visual appearance, but in that respect unicode puzzles me on a daily basis) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Arabic with LuaTeX vs. XeTeX
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > But at this stage of development, only pure OpenType fonts will be > supported out of the box. For example: Traditional Arabic, which comes > with XP, has OpenType tables but depends on Uniscribe instead of OpenType > for, eg, making marks exceptions to the contextual analysis. Since the > mark exception was not added to the GSUB table, voweled text appears > unjoined in Trad. Arabic processed by luaTeX. one problem there is that the open type spec is not always clear which in turn can mean that apps do things different or maybe even know how to deal with certain fonts; another problem is that there is no prescribed behaviour ... ok, some dtp app can claim that version n+3 supports this or that feature, or adapts automatically to this or that situations but if that's then the 'standard' there is no reason why version n+1 should not have supported it (or should have been tagged as bugged) > I suppose we (=Hans) could add some "spell-checking" to the otf analyzer, > but that's dangerous and needs some careful thought. Maybe we can come up > with various "spell-checking" options that could be turned on and off, so > that old-technology (Nadeem is 1998), platform-dependent (like Nadeem and > Trad. Ar.) fonts can be used. we can add all kind of checking and compensation and make them pseudo features and then have them enabled based on info that we keep in a font database (like .. this font lacks this or that and therefore we need to enable such or so; of this feature in font foo is bugged so we disable it) > In any case, we want to stay as platform-independent as possible. So for > AAT, we may need to wait at least till someone (maybe one of you?) can > come up with a spec so that we can implement a cross-platform solution for > AAT. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Alan Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Having discovered LaTeX a few weeks ago, I'm considering > switching to ConTeXt instead. :O) > > Hence, while playing with ConTeXt, I'd like to know... > > How to implement this type of document navigational system/panel: > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf ? See some sources at http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > This issue needs to be looked at in the larger context of bidi in luatex. > For example, we need a flexible model to implement Bidirectional Character > Types. For example, we need an option that will recognize certain > character-types as RL and switch directions accordingly -- that is, > automatically switch \textdir, within a given paragraph, in accordance > with the directionality of the word-string. This needs a well thought-out > model so that we can map the Unicode specification to our \texdir \pardir > functionality... it's not hard to do but indeed we need a clean definition; it may even be that we need to change some of this \*dir stuff; (it's no problem for me to inject dir nodes in the node list); especially messy seems the number stuff btw is there a reason why in bidi arabic r->l is tagged 'al' and not 'r'? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Morgan Brassel wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In the following example:
>>
>> \define[1]\com{com\ #1}
>> \starttext
>> \com{1} $\com{1}$
>> \stoptext
>>
>> the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the
>> compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm
>> using the latest minimals.
>
> Definitely a bug: the trace shows a recursive definition. \ is defined in
> terms of itself. Looking at core-spa.tex I cannot understand why this is
> happening.
hm, i'll look into it; i changed some things in the process of writing
the mkiv mathml(3) interpreter.
\ is a primitive in tex but with some properties that may not always be
optimal
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Re: [NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?
Alan Stone wrote: > Hi, > > Having discovered LaTeX a few weeks ago, I'm considering > switching to ConTeXt instead. :O) > > Hence, while playing with ConTeXt, I'd like to know... > > How to implement this type of document navigational system/panel: > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf ? This style is inlined in the actual manual environment file, but I think pre-05 is close. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Presentation_Styles Cheers, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Morgan Brassel wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In the following example:
>>
>> \define[1]\com{com\ #1}
>> \starttext
>> \com{1} $\com{1}$
>> \stoptext
>>
>> the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the
>> compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm
>> using the latest minimals.
>
> Definitely a bug: the trace shows a recursive definition. \ is defined in
> terms of itself. Looking at core-spa.tex I cannot understand why this is
> happening.
in core-spa.tex change this line:
\let\normalspaceprimitive=\ % space-comment is really needed
if you want to be puzzled ... try
\show\
\show\ %
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Re: [NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:11 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Alan Stone wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Having discovered LaTeX a few weeks ago, I'm considering >> switching to ConTeXt instead. :O) >> >> Hence, while playing with ConTeXt, I'd like to know... >> >> How to implement this type of document navigational system/panel: >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf ? > > See some sources at > http://context.aanhet.net/svn/manuals/ Hello, Luigi, you have forgotten another link ;) http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2008/programme.shtml Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?
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[NTG-context] staticMPfigure
Hi,
When I run the example below (current beta, pdftex, live.contextgarden.net)
the generated pdf does not contain any pictures.
Any suggestion how to solve this? Or is the command obsolete?
Thanks,
B. Vogel
%test.tex
\startstaticMPfigure{center}
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm ;
dotlabel.bot(textext("(0,0)"),origin) ;
\stopstaticMPfigure
\startstaticMPfigure{radius}
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm ;
drawarrow (0,0)--(1cm,0) ;
label.bot(textext("$r$"),(5mm,0)) ;
\stopstaticMPfigure
\starttext
Circle centered \usestaticMPfigure[center][width=1cm] at origin with radius
\usestaticMPfigure[radius][width=1cm] $r=1\,\text{cm}$.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] How to implement this document's navigational system ?
For your information... After installing ConTeXt with ContextMinimalInstall.exe, which didn't succeed, I took http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip but couldn't figure out how to configure sciTE - even after reading the "SciTE in ConTeXt" manual several times it still was a complete mystery, so in the end found http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswincontext.zip which is configured for SciTE. Is there a better alternative ? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]
Hans Hagen schrieb:
>
> meta-ini.mkiv
>
> \def\grabMPclippath#1#2#3#4#5%
>{\blabelgroup
> \edef\width {#3\space}\let\overlaywidth \width
> \edef\height{#4\space}\let\overlayheight\height
> \doifdefinedelse{MPC:#1}
> {\xdef\MPclippath{\getvalue{MPC:#1}}%
>\ifx\MPclippath\empty\xdef\MPclippath{#5}\fi
>\setxvalue{MPC:#1}{\MPclippath}}
> {\xdef\MPclippath{#5}}%
> \elabelgroup}
>
>
there seem to be an ugly sideeffect in combination with \startTEXpage ..
\stopTEXpage. I use this to encapsulate my test graphics. The resulting
page is only 1.1mm width (tested with several different sized gfx; width
is always this value, height is normal).
all tested with the beta from 07.06.2008 and luatex trunk (08.06.2008).
todays beta has additional problems with text color (always black) and
also some unicolored backgrounds appear black only. so i went back to
the prior beta version and changed only the clip part.
regards, peter
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Morgan Brassel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> In the following example:
>>>
>>> \define[1]\com{com\ #1}
>>> \starttext
>>> \com{1} $\com{1}$
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the
>>> compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm
>>> using the latest minimals.
>>
>> Definitely a bug: the trace shows a recursive definition. \ is defined in
>> terms of itself. Looking at core-spa.tex I cannot understand why this is
>> happening.
>
> in core-spa.tex change this line:
>
> \let\normalspaceprimitive=\ % space-comment is really needed
>
> if you want to be puzzled ... try
>
> \show\
> \show\ %
Thank you for this fast correction, Hans. By the way, I have a small
question about updating the minimals tree: which command must be used
preferably?
* ctxtools --contextupdate
or
* first-setup.sh another time as suggested on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals
Many thanks,
Morgan
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[NTG-context] Updating minimals
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Morgan Brassel wrote: > > Thank you for this fast correction, Hans. By the way, I have a small > question about updating the minimals tree: which command must be used > preferably? > > * ctxtools --contextupdate > > or > > * first-setup.sh another time as suggested on > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals I still use first-setup.sh at the moment. In theory mtxtools --script update [options] should work and it might make sense to provide something like context --update in future. (where options need to be at least --update --force, but --make and --delete is also suggested) But there's a little problem - luatex cannot be updated if you use mtxtools --script update. At least on windows, that definitely reports an error. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]
Peter Rolf wrote:
> Hans Hagen schrieb:
>> meta-ini.mkiv
>>
>> \def\grabMPclippath#1#2#3#4#5%
>>{\blabelgroup
>> \edef\width {#3\space}\let\overlaywidth \width
>> \edef\height{#4\space}\let\overlayheight\height
>> \doifdefinedelse{MPC:#1}
>> {\xdef\MPclippath{\getvalue{MPC:#1}}%
>>\ifx\MPclippath\empty\xdef\MPclippath{#5}\fi
>>\setxvalue{MPC:#1}{\MPclippath}}
>> {\xdef\MPclippath{#5}}%
>> \elabelgroup}
>>
>>
> there seem to be an ugly sideeffect in combination with \startTEXpage ..
> \stopTEXpage. I use this to encapsulate my test graphics. The resulting
> page is only 1.1mm width (tested with several different sized gfx; width
> is always this value, height is normal).
>
> all tested with the beta from 07.06.2008 and luatex trunk (08.06.2008).
> todays beta has additional problems with text color (always black) and
> also some unicolored backgrounds appear black only. so i went back to
> the prior beta version and changed only the clip part.
hm ... example ...
(keep in mind that mkiv's color handling is like fonts, i.e. no coloring
of unboxed stuff as in \color[red]{\box\whatever})
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I run the example below (current beta, pdftex, live.contextgarden.net)
> the generated pdf does not contain any pictures.
> Any suggestion how to solve this? Or is the command obsolete?
works ok here for pdftex (maybe no intermediate run on the garden)
in mkiv there was indeed a buglet (i never tested it)
> Thanks,
>
> B. Vogel
>
> %test.tex
> \startstaticMPfigure{center}
> draw fullcircle scaled 2cm ;
> dotlabel.bot(textext("(0,0)"),origin) ;
> \stopstaticMPfigure
>
> \startstaticMPfigure{radius}
> draw fullcircle scaled 2cm ;
> drawarrow (0,0)--(1cm,0) ;
> label.bot(textext("$r$"),(5mm,0)) ;
> \stopstaticMPfigure
>
> \starttext
>
> Circle centered \usestaticMPfigure[center][width=1cm] at origin with radius
> \usestaticMPfigure[radius][width=1cm] $r=1\,\text{cm}$.
>
> \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] clipping bug [or the return of the long cat]
Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Hans Hagen schrieb:
>>> meta-ini.mkiv
>>>
>>> \def\grabMPclippath#1#2#3#4#5%
>>>{\blabelgroup
>>> \edef\width {#3\space}\let\overlaywidth \width
>>> \edef\height{#4\space}\let\overlayheight\height
>>> \doifdefinedelse{MPC:#1}
>>> {\xdef\MPclippath{\getvalue{MPC:#1}}%
>>>\ifx\MPclippath\empty\xdef\MPclippath{#5}\fi
>>>\setxvalue{MPC:#1}{\MPclippath}}
>>> {\xdef\MPclippath{#5}}%
>>> \elabelgroup}
>>>
>>>
>> there seem to be an ugly sideeffect in combination with \startTEXpage ..
>> \stopTEXpage. I use this to encapsulate my test graphics. The resulting
>> page is only 1.1mm width (tested with several different sized gfx; width
>> is always this value, height is normal).
>>
>> all tested with the beta from 07.06.2008 and luatex trunk (08.06.2008).
>> todays beta has additional problems with text color (always black) and
>> also some unicolored backgrounds appear black only. so i went back to
>> the prior beta version and changed only the clip part.
>
> hm ... example ...
>
:)
only a very big one (with non public code). currently no time, but i
will try to create some small examples later.
> (keep in mind that mkiv's color handling is like fonts, i.e. no coloring
> of unboxed stuff as in \color[red]{\box\whatever})
>
yes. it's also possible, that i have to adapt my code again.
all i can say at the moment is, that it works with the beta from
07.06.2008 and fails with the current. we will see (shouldn't be a hard
problem).
peter
> Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure
Hi,
I get a different result. Using a fresh install (context-setup-mswin) on
windows XP:
!pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file ./test-center.pdf): xpdf: reading PDF image
fai
led (0)
==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
See the added logfile.
Bernard
test.log:
>
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.50.0-alpha-20080414 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(format=cont-en 2008.6.10) 10 JUN 2008 15:23
entering extended mode
\write18 enabled.
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
**test.tex \emergencyend
(./test.tex
ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.10 11:43 MKII fmt: 2008.6.10 int: english/english
language: language en is active
system : cont-new loaded
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/cont-new.mkii)
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/use
r/cont-sys.tex
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/type-tmf.tex)
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/type-siz.tex)
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/type-one.tex)
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/type-akb.tex)
system (OLDTEX) : [line 67]
)
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns nl->texnansi:texnansi->1->2:3 nl->ec:ec->2->2:3
fr->
texnansi:texnansi->3->2:3 fr->ec:ec->4->2:3 de->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3
de->e
c:ec->6->2:3 it->texnansi:texnansi->7->2:3 it->ec:ec->8->2:3
pt->texnansi:texna
nsi->9->2:3 pt->ec:ec->10->2:3 hr->ec:ec->11->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->12->2:3
pl->ec:e
c->13->2:3 pl->qx:qx->14->2:3 cz->il2:il2->15->2:3 cz->ec:ec->16->2:3
sk->il2:i
l2->17->2:3 sk->ec:ec->18->2:3 sl->ec:ec->19->2:3 ru->t2a:t2a->21->2:3
en->ec:e
c->22->2:3 uk->ec:ec->23->2:3 us->ec:ec->24->2:3 agr->agr:agr->25->2:3
da->ec:e
c->26->2:3 sv->ec:ec->27->2:3 af->ec:ec->28->2:3 no->ec:ec->29->2:3
deo->ec:ec-
>30->2:3 es->ec:ec->34->2:3 ca->ec:ec->35->2:3 la->ec:ec->36->2:3
ro->ec:ec->37
->2:3 tr->ec:ec->38->2:3 fi->ec:ec->40->2:3 hu->ec:ec->41->2:3 loaded
specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout3 = `test.tui'.
system : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/spec-fdf.tex
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/spec-fdf.mkii))
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
)
\openout0 = `test-mpgraph.mp'.
\openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.
systems : system commands are enabled
\openout2 = `test-center.mp'.
\openout2 = `test-radius.mp'.
(./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
e/pdfr-def.tex)
systems : begin file test at line 12
fonts : resetting map file list
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/original-empty.map}
fonts : using map file: original-base
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/original-base.map}
fonts : using map file: original-ams-base
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/original-ams-base.map}
fonts : using map file: original-public-lm
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/original-public-lm.map}
fonts : using map file: lm-ec
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-e
c.map}
fonts : using map file: lm-math
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-m
ath.map}
fonts : using map file: lm-rm
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-r
m.map}
fonts : using map file: 8r-base
{c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/8r-base.map}
f
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with '\ ' in math commands in current minimals
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Morgan Brassel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> In the following example:
>>>
>>> \define[1]\com{com\ #1}
>>> \starttext
>>> \com{1} $\com{1}$
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> the second call to \com (the one in math mode) seems to stop the
>>> compilation of the file. Is it a bug? It wasn't happening before. I'm
>>> using the latest minimals.
>>
>> Definitely a bug: the trace shows a recursive definition. \ is defined in
>> terms of itself. Looking at core-spa.tex I cannot understand why this is
>> happening.
>
> in core-spa.tex change this line:
>
> \let\normalspaceprimitive=\ % space-comment is really needed
>
> if you want to be puzzled ... try
>
> \show\
> \show\ %
Ah, interesting. I did not know that \^^M was a macro. On hindsight,
it makes sense.
Aditya
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Hi to all,
I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in Visual
Identities.
They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an
introductory but "real" seminar.
At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
Now the probem:
All my students comes from humanities, no computer science background
at all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level installation aspects.
My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working
with an year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it
has been complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my
students dig into installations ("patch this" etc).
Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
Any ideas?
Many thanks
Best
-a-
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Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?
Hello Uwe, On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Uwe Koloska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Wolfgang, hello list, > > thank you for the help! > > Unfortunately the code doesn't work flawlessly with the current minimal > context distribution. So for the archive, here are the corrected files and a > short usage description: > > > The typescript that defines the context bindings for the delicious font from > http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html > > --- type-delicious.- > \starttypescript [sans] [delicious] > \setups[font:fallback:sans] > \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular] > \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic] > \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold] > \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic] > \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps] > \stoptypescript > > \starttypescript [sans] [delicious] > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular][name:Delicious-Roman] > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic] > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold] > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic] > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps] > \stoptypescript > > \starttypescript [delicious] > \definetypeface [delicious] [ss] [sans] [delicious] [default] > \stoptypescript > > > Now the testfile: > --- delicious-test.tex - > \usetypescriptfile [type-delicious] > \usetypescript[delicious] > \setupbodyfont[delicious] > > \starttext > > My document with the delicious fonts. > > \input knuth > > \stoptext > > > Now save these two file together with the otf-files from the delicious > download in a directory and call the luatex version of context with this > command: > texexec --lua delicious-test.tex > > > What did I change? > > 1. The interface for the \definefontsynonym command seems to have changed: > There is no third parameter -- this one "[features=default]" end up in the > document as text. I will test it today evening and can give you tommorow an answer but what you say makes no sense, there was always a third parameter for \definefontsynonym and Hans use it too in type-otf.tex. > 2. To load the typescript, the command is not "\usetypefile [delicious]" > but "\usetypescriptfile [type-delicious]" Both commands are equivalent, I used always the short form in my documents since a few months and got never any problem with it. > Have fun! > Uwe Greetings Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right?
Best
-a-
On 10 Jun 2008, at 16:36, Andrea Valle wrote:
Hi to all,
I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in
Visual Identities.
They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an
introductory but "real" seminar.
At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
Now the probem:
All my students comes from humanities, no computer science
background at all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level
installation aspects.
My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working
with an year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it
has been complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my
students dig into installations ("patch this" etc).
Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
Any ideas?
Many thanks
Best
-a-
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Think of it as seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)
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. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on noise)
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Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I get a different result. Using a fresh install (context-setup-mswin) on
> windows XP:
>
> !pdfTeX error: pdftex.exe (file ./test-center.pdf): xpdf: reading PDF image
> fai
> led (0)
> ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
> See the added logfile.
>
> Bernard
>
>
> test.log:
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.50.0-alpha-20080414 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> (format=cont-en 2008.6.10) 10 JUN 2008 15:23
> entering extended mode
> \write18 enabled.
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
> **test.tex \emergencyend
> (./test.tex
>
> ConTeXt ver: 2008.06.10 11:43 MKII fmt: 2008.6.10 int: english/english
>
> language: language en is active
> system : cont-new loaded
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/cont-new.tex
> systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/cont-new.mkii)
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/cont-mtx.tex))
> system : cont-old loaded
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/cont-old.tex
> loading : Context Old Macros
> )
> system : cont-fil loaded
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/cont-fil.tex
> loading : Context File Synonyms
> )
> system : cont-sys loaded
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/use
> r/cont-sys.tex
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/type-tmf.tex)
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/type-siz.tex)
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/type-one.tex)
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/type-akb.tex)
> system (OLDTEX) : [line 67]
> )
> bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
> language: patterns nl->texnansi:texnansi->1->2:3 nl->ec:ec->2->2:3
> fr->
> texnansi:texnansi->3->2:3 fr->ec:ec->4->2:3 de->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3
> de->e
> c:ec->6->2:3 it->texnansi:texnansi->7->2:3 it->ec:ec->8->2:3
> pt->texnansi:texna
> nsi->9->2:3 pt->ec:ec->10->2:3 hr->ec:ec->11->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->12->2:3
> pl->ec:e
> c->13->2:3 pl->qx:qx->14->2:3 cz->il2:il2->15->2:3 cz->ec:ec->16->2:3
> sk->il2:i
> l2->17->2:3 sk->ec:ec->18->2:3 sl->ec:ec->19->2:3 ru->t2a:t2a->21->2:3
> en->ec:e
> c->22->2:3 uk->ec:ec->23->2:3 us->ec:ec->24->2:3 agr->agr:agr->25->2:3
> da->ec:e
> c->26->2:3 sv->ec:ec->27->2:3 af->ec:ec->28->2:3 no->ec:ec->29->2:3
> deo->ec:ec-
>> 30->2:3 es->ec:ec->34->2:3 ca->ec:ec->35->2:3 la->ec:ec->36->2:3
> ro->ec:ec->37
> ->2:3 tr->ec:ec->38->2:3 fi->ec:ec->40->2:3 hu->ec:ec->41->2:3 loaded
> specials: tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
> \openout3 = `test.tui'.
>
> system : test.top loaded
> (./test.top
> specials: loading definition file tpd
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/spec-tpd.tex
> specials: loading definition file fdf
>
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/spec-fdf.tex
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/spec-fdf.mkii))
> specials: fdf loaded
> )
> specials: fdf,tpd loaded
> )
> \openout0 = `test-mpgraph.mp'.
>
> \openout0 = `mpgraph.mp'.
>
>
> systems : system commands are enabled
> \openout2 = `test-center.mp'.
>
> \openout2 = `test-radius.mp'.
>
> (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
> (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
> (c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bas
> e/pdfr-def.tex)
> systems : begin file test at line 12
> fonts : resetting map file list
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
> x/context/original-empty.map}
> fonts : using map file: original-base
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
> x/context/original-base.map}
> fonts : using map file: original-ams-base
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
> x/context/original-ams-base.map}
> fonts : using map file: original-public-lm
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdfte
> x/context/original-public-lm.map}
> fonts : using map file: lm-ec
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-e
> c.map}
> fonts : using map file: lm-math
> {c:/context/debug/context-setup-mswin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
> if for instance ( ) are officially not symbols but open/close thingies, > then we need to deal with them Yes, they are. That's what the Bidi_Mirrored property is for. >(although i then wonder why we have no > proper open/close code point for them instead of reusing the ascii () If anything, for backward compatibility. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Hi Andrea, Regarding the installation of TeX and ConTeXt I did it for my daughter who is a biologist, on a MacBook: this is quite easy with MacTeX. Then it is enough to tell your students to do in a Terminal window: sudo ctxtools --updatecontext For LuaTeX it is a little bit more complexe, since the first installation is more tricky for the non specialist. > On 10 juin 08, at 16:43, Andrea Valle wrote: >> > Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? > […] It seems that yes, but I couldn't setup things correctly on my machine… (MacBook Pro + MacOS X 10.5.3 + TeXShop + GWTeX). If you succeed, please let me know how. Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> if for instance ( ) are officially not symbols but open/close thingies, >> then we need to deal with them > > Yes, they are. That's what the Bidi_Mirrored property is for. > >>(although i then wonder why we have no >> proper open/close code point for them instead of reusing the ascii () > > If anything, for backward compatibility. sure but originally they were in ascii just ( and ) and not some generic opener and closer Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
> btw is there a reason why in bidi arabic r->l is tagged 'al' and not 'r'? Arabic Letter. Basic right-to-left characters have type R. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> btw is there a reason why in bidi arabic r->l is tagged 'al' and not 'r'? > > Arabic Letter. Basic right-to-left characters have type R. do you have any idea why is arab treated special? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:
> Hi to all,
> I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in Visual
> Identities.
> They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an introductory
> but "real" seminar.
> At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
> Now the probem:
> All my students comes from humanities, no computer science background at
> all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level installation aspects.
> My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working with an
> year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
> Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it has been
> complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my students dig into
> installations ("patch this" etc).
> Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
> Any ideas?
Oliver (who's comming to the meeting with the same probability as you
are :) is preparing an installer for Mac, but his last notification
was: "I have put it aside for a while since the tools for packaging
are buggy."
Actually, it should not be that much work to make the minimals behave
the same was as MacTeX, but I don't have enough motivation and skills
to dig into a proper installer.
TeX Live 2008 will include LuaTeX, and so will MacTeX (if they create it).
Have you ever tried to install minimals (http://minimals.contextgarden.net/)?
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right?
Yes but some fonts use AAT feayures rather than OpenType features
(take a look at the Arabic thread), so don't worry if you want to use fonts
for foreign languages like Arabic or CJK.
> Best
> -a-
Wolfgang
> On 10 Jun 2008, at 16:36, Andrea Valle wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
> I've briefly presented ConTeXt to the students of my course in Visual
> Identities.
> They were all enthusiastic. So they asked me if I can give an introductory
> but "real" seminar.
> At my lab the students are all on macosx 10.4/5.
> Now the probem:
> All my students comes from humanities, no computer science background at
> all. I cannot ask them to be aware of low level installation aspects.
> My ideal would be something like the standard ConTeXt I was working with an
> year ago. One installs MacTeX and can start working.
> Now, we need easy font switching. I'm actually using XeTeX. But it has been
> complicated to set it up. I don't think I can have my students dig into
> installations ("patch this" etc).
> Is there any chance to have luatex into the next MacTeX distro?
> Any ideas?
> Many thanks
> Best
>
> -a-
>
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> Think of it as seasoning
> . noise [salt] is boring
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[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, There is a new beta; apart from a few fixes (mostly mkiv) the mathml interpreter now also mathml 3 (for as much as I could deduce it from the draft which is definitely a draft and not yet a reference). Provisional openmath is also part of the game but not that well tested. Something that we call 'calcmath' is available by default when the module is loaded. At the context conference Aditya has to plug some of the holes in my math knowledge in order to reach perfection. I also uploaded a new mmlprime.pdf document. Although I need to do a major cleanup x-mathml shows a bit how to deal with xml in mkiv. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not > affected? ok, the next version will have otf.remove_joiners = true -- default later we can make it an option in the font definition - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
Andrea Valle wrote: > Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Andrea Valle wrote: >> Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? > > yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or when to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it matters.) Thanks David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
David wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> Andrea Valle wrote: >>> Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? >> yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR > > > > I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or when > to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to > have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it > matters.) we can consider setting it up automatically but that can only be done when it's a stable location Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:45:31 -0600, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: >> Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not >> affected? > > ok, the next version will have > > otf.remove_joiners = true -- default Our main test fonts + professional fonts generally have zwj zwnj so actually the default should be otf.remove_joiners = false at least until we can > make it an option in the font definition Otherwise I have to keep modifying the file everytime I download a beta... Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:45:31 -0600, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>>> Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not
>>> affected?
>> ok, the next version will have
>>
>> otf.remove_joiners = true -- default
>
> Our main test fonts + professional fonts generally have zwj zwnj so
> actually the default should be
sure, but i need to check in what way they interfere in the lookups later on
> otf.remove_joiners = false
>
> at least until we can
>
>> make it an option in the font definition
>
> Otherwise I have to keep modifying the file everytime I download a beta...
you can put
\ctxlua{otf.remove_joiners = false}
on cont-loc.mkiv or so
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt manual question
I intend to print the http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-enp.pdf manual ( dated 2001.11.12 ). However, before proceeding... Is there's an updated version available ? Thanks, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
(thanks to all) Oliver (who's comming to the meeting with the same probability as you are :) (eh, I'd like to come...) TeX Live 2008 will include LuaTeX, and so will MacTeX (if they create it). That would be great Have you ever tried to install minimals (http:// minimals.contextgarden.net/)? No, frankly I am a bit scared of tweaking my actual distro... More, I think I have some problems with my unix env. But I'll try. But: the linked files are mk II? If I want system fonts shouldn't I go for luatex? Thanks Best -a- Mojca __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
In my experience the font switching issue (complicated for newbies) is the only relevant negative feature in ConTeXt. So, if I have Luatex I can forget xetex? Best -a- On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:37, Hans Hagen wrote: David wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Andrea Valle wrote: Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or when to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it matters.) we can consider setting it up automatically but that can only be done when it's a stable location Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Andrea Valle wrote: > > Have you ever tried to install minimals > (http://minimals.contextgarden.net/)? > > No, frankly I am a bit scared of tweaking my actual distro... You don't need to tweak it. You just download it and run . setuptex whenever you need it. If you don't run the command and don't have the PATH set, your usual distribution will be used. > More, I think I have some problems with my unix env. > But I'll try. > But: the linked files are mk II? Which files? > If I want system fonts shouldn't I go for luatex? LuaTeX or XeTeX, yes. But they're included in the distribution. > So, if I have Luatex I can forget xetex? Depends on how many bugs you can still handle ... :) If you're careful, you should be able to process the same file with both XeTeX and LuaTeX. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
> sure but originally they were in ascii just ( and ) and not some generic
> opener and closer
I did not mean ASCII ... in the 8-bit encodings for Arabic that built
over ASCII (ISO 8859-6, Windows-1256, etc.) there also was a single
couple of parentheses, and I don't think they had a different meaning as
in Unicode ... I couldn't find the exact reference (the ISO 8859-6 text
sells for 70 Swiss Francs on the ISO site, and the only specification
Microsoft provides on his site is the character table --
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/sbcs/1256.mspx), but HTML
pages I find on the Web tend to indicate that in Arabic text encoded in
Windows-1256, the character '(' (byte 0x28) was really used as an
opening bracket, and ')' as a closing one. Maybe people on the list
from Arabic-speaking countries, Israel or Iran can tell us more (in
particular, what do one type on a standard keyboard to input an opening
bracket?).
Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex (actually Aleph) and Bidi_Mirrored chars in RTL mode
> do you have any idea why is arab treated special? Arabic letters behave differently from Hebrew, Thaana, etc. in particular in the vicinity of European digits. But the difference is quite minute. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Problem with TSV tables
Hi!
Followed the "MyWay" creating tables using CSV..in order to create
tables from datafiles in tab separated columns.
A weird message "\line= ..." stop appears
Can someone figure it out?
Thanks in advance
Jan-Erik Hägglöf
% engine=luatex
\mainlanguage[sv]
% \environments
\usemodule[database]
%\unprotect
%\startsetups TSV:unix
% \catcode \#=\@@comment
%\stopsetups
%\protect
\defineseparatedlist[TSV][separator=tab,before=,after=,first=\bTR,last=\eTR,left=\bTD,right=\eTD]
\setupTABLE[r][1][style=bold,background=color,backgroundcolor=gray]
\starttext
\bTABLE
\startTSV %Riktig tid $ T $ Pulser per sekund $ \frac{d\nu}{dt} $ Absolut fel $ \delta \nu'=\sqrt{\nu} $
a b c d
\stopTSV
\processseparatedfile[TSV][sndfall.dat]
\eTABLE
\stoptext
TeXExec | processing document 'tsvmall.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file tsvmall.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 294
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
(./tsvmall.tex
ConTeXt ver: 2008.04.27 19:08 MKIV fmt: 2008.4.28 int: english/english
language : language en is active
system : cont-new loaded
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua: used config path -
/home/janneman/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf;/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/web2c/texmf.cnf;/home/janneman/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua: used cache path -
/home/janneman/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/7ede91d1955d08635a26a177305114fa
) (/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex))
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
specials : tex loaded
system : tsvmall.top loaded
(./tsvmall.top
specials : loading definition file tpd
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials : loading definition file fdf
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv))
specials : fdf loaded
)
specials : fdf loaded
)
system : module database loaded
(/home/janneman/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-database.tex)
(./tsvmall.tuo) (./tsvmall.tuo)
systems: begin file tsvmall at line 12
\line=TeXExec | runtime: 43.756439
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with TSV tables
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote: > Hi! > > Followed the "MyWay" creating tables using CSV..in order to create > tables from datafiles in tab separated columns. > > A weird message "\line= ..." stop appears Hello, You're using \processseparatedfile[TSV][sndfall.dat] Does the file sndfall.dat exist in the folder where you're compiling the document? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
