Re: [NTG-context] Lucida again on mac osx

2008-09-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Eric,

Eric DÉTREZ wrote:
> I sent this message last week.

I am pushing this message up for you just so someone else
can have a look at it. But there is one thing I can say
for sure: texfont does not create a typescript for you
(it predates typescripts) so you (or someone) have to create
that from the information in the texnansi-bh-lucida test file.

Best wishes,
Taco

> *
> Hello
> 
> I know that I disturb a lot this list, please forgive me.
> 
> I tried to install a new mac.
> 
> I donwloaded mactex (2008)
> I installed lucida fons in ~/Library/texmf/
> then I typed "sudo mktexlsr" and "sudo updmap-sys --enable Map  
> lucida.map" in terminal
> All is fine with plain TeX, I can use my lucida fonts.
> 
> I copied all my afm and pfb files in a directory
> then I typed "texfont --fontroot=/Users/Ericd/library/texmf --ve=bh -- 
> co=lucida --ma --in --expert"
> from this directory in terminal. (don't understand  the --ma --in -- 
> expert things)
> It made a lot of job, map files, tfm files.
> The texnansi-bh-lucida test file seems to work (it's a long task, I  
> only  asked to show LucidaBright).
> 
> BUT
> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt]
> doesn' show me Lucida in my pdf.
> 
> What did I do wrong ?
> *
> Since I installed mactex 2006 and it went right (but cmr is uggly,  
> there are not any ligature, first is written rst)
> The same happens to my main computer :
> I use mactex 2007, everything goes well ; I tried to install mactex  
> 2008 and, again, the lucida fonts are replaced by computer modern (or  
> latin modern ?)
> All my fonts afm, tfm and so on are local, in the ~/Library/texmf  
> folder.
> 
> I wish to install mactex 2007 : where can I find it ?
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] overprint and currentcolorname in mkiv

2008-09-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote:

> Well, it seems that my formulation was too fuzzy (its out of question
> that overprinting is implemented). Anyhow, its time to test it again.
> This code fails here and at ConTeXt live (online).
> 
> 
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> No overprinting.
> 
> \startoverprint
> Overprinting is active.
> \stopoverprint
> 
> \stoptext

run ok here, but the question is .. what exactly do you expect to see


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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida again on mac osx

2008-09-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric DÉTREZ wrote:
>> I sent this message last week.
>
> I am pushing this message up for you just so someone else
> can have a look at it. But there is one thing I can say
> for sure: texfont does not create a typescript for you
> (it predates typescripts) so you (or someone) have to create
> that from the information in the texnansi-bh-lucida test file.

The problem is already solved.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] overprint and currentcolorname in mkiv

2008-09-15 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Peter Rolf wrote:
> 
>> Well, it seems that my formulation was too fuzzy (its out of question
>> that overprinting is implemented). Anyhow, its time to test it again.
>> This code fails here and at ConTeXt live (online).
>>
>>
>> \setupcolors[state=start]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> No overprinting.
>>
>> \startoverprint
>> Overprinting is active.
>> \stopoverprint
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> run ok here, but the question is .. what exactly do you expect to see
>

to be exact: some orange text :)

Acrobat8 menu 'Advanced'-->'Print Production'-->'Output Preview...'

[Output Preview Window]
- select 'Color Warnings' entry in the 'Preview' listbox
- check the now visible 'Show Overprinting' checkbox

Now all overprinting stuff is shown in the selected color (orange).
Well, at least should...

After comparing the pdftex and the luatex pdf files, I found a
difference in the used overprinting modes. pdftex uses the 'Standard
Overprinting Mode' (OPM 0) here and luatex the 'Illustrator Overprinting
Mode' (OPM 1). This is probably the reason why the overprinting is not
shown in orange in the prior described output preview. So its no ConTeXt
related problem (overprinting attribute is set), but more a bug or at
least missing feature in Acrobat8.

I have to read more about the differences between the two modes. What I
have found out so far (no guarantee):

- 'OPM 0' overprints only on gray and spot colors (which makes it nearly
useless for my needs)
- 'OPM 1' can overprint on CMYK, but only if the RIP is capable of
Postscript Level 3. If any color channel of the overprinting color is at
0%, the overprinting is done channelwise (which means the corresponding
channel of the underlying color is visible in case of the 0% channel; so
knockout should be used here instead of overprinting)
- Also overprinting in general only works if no ICC-profile is attached
to the object


Sigh, prepress problems. Sorry for the noise!

Peter

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[NTG-context] Newspeak was: ifdim ... or ... else ...

2008-09-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's no mkiv way (aka "newspeak") .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

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Re: [NTG-context] Indexing macros

2008-09-15 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 3 December 2002 17:57:00 Hans Hagen wrote:
> Copied from the manual source: 
...
> \index {form::entry}

The following minimal example works as expected:
\setupregister[index][au][textstyle=\sc]
\def\Index#1{\index{#1}#1}
\def\Author#1{\index{au::#1}#1}
\starttext
The \index[TeX]{\TeX}\TeX \Index{typesetting} system (\Author{Knuth})
\page
\completeindex
\stoptext

Within a large project using the above definitions, author entries in the index 
are typeset normally, not in \sc.
However, if I use
\setupregister[index][au][textstyle=boldslanted]
I do get bold-slanted entries in my large project. Have I misunderstood the 
use of setupregister, or is this a bug?
Thank you, in advance.

Alan

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[NTG-context] nolist still gives textellipsis???

2008-09-15 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

I remember Henning was fighting with this quite a while ... but  
eventually this was solved, wasn't it?
Shouldn't the following give NO textellipsis in the TOC:

\starttext

\setuplist[chapter][limittext={}]
\completecontent

\chapter{aaa\nolist{bbb}ccc}

\stoptext

(?)

Steffen
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[NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-09-15 Thread Armando Martins

Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution, please?
Thomas Schmitz told me OpenSuse (which I 've been using for a year...) is  
not that Tex-friendly...
Thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-09-15 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/9/15 Armando Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution, please?

Debian. The maintainer (Norbert Preining) actually visits TeX
conferences and was in Bohinj. :-)

> Thomas Schmitz told me OpenSuse (which I 've been using for a year...) is
> not that Tex-friendly...

IMHO it's not so good as debian, but much better then Red Hat/Fedora
or the rest.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] Newspeak was: ifdim ... or ... else ...

2008-09-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:30 PM, luigi scarso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> It's no mkiv way (aka "newspeak") .
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
>
> Wolfgang

>newspeak would be using an attribute and postprocessing the node list -)
>Hans
"newspeak" in this sense -- using an attribute and postprocessing the node
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[NTG-context] New t-vim module

2008-09-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi,

I have updated the t-vim module so that it works with both MKII and MKIV. 
The only new feature is that line numbering command is now configurable.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-09-15 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne ponedeljek 15. septembra 2008 je Martin Schröder napisal(a):
> 2008/9/15 Armando Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution, please?
>
> Debian. The maintainer (Norbert Preining) actually visits TeX
> conferences and was in Bohinj. :-)

I use Gentoo and am pretty happy with the modular TeX Live ebuilds, but on top 
of my head, I'd also say Debian would probably be (alongside Slackware and 
Gentoo) one of the distros with the biggest TeX userbase.


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[NTG-context] How to put descriptionheads into the index?

2008-09-15 Thread Holzminister
Hi!

Let's assume I have a description like the one in the wiki:

>>>
\startdescr{Para}
  This is a shorter item label, and some text that talks about it.
  The text is wrapped into a paragraph, with successive lines indented.
\stopdescr
>>>

Now I want to have "Para" in my index. I tried something like

>>>
\definedescription[descr][
  command={\index{#1}}]
>>>

But that puts only a "descr" into the index. Is there another automated
way to achieve my wanted effect?


Thanks in advance,
Eyke
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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-09-15 Thread Gour
> "Armando" == Armando Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Armando> Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution,
Armando> please?  

I'm quite happy with Archlinux (texlive 2008 entered 'extra' repository
few days ago).


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Re: [NTG-context] Needless empty page at end

2008-09-15 Thread Holzminister
Hi!

Is there nobody who knows something about this?

Best regards,
Eyke

Am Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:50:01 +0200
schrieb Holzminister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi again!
> 
> When I compile the example of
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Alternating_backgrounds_and_repeating_layers
> with "texexec -lua" or "-pdf" I get an additional empty page at the
> end of my document. It shows the watermark but neither text nor the
> pagenumber.
> 
> This workaround unfortunately doesn't work:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Empty_page_at_the_end
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> I'm using the latest garden-minimal.
> 
> Good night,
> Eyke
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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-09-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 15, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Matija Šuklje wrote:

> Dne ponedeljek 15. septembra 2008 je Martin Schröder napisal(a):
>> 2008/9/15 Armando Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution, please?
>>
>> Debian. The maintainer (Norbert Preining) actually visits TeX
>> conferences and was in Bohinj. :-)
>
> I use Gentoo and am pretty happy with the modular TeX Live ebuilds,  
> but on top
> of my head, I'd also say Debian would probably be (alongside  
> Slackware and
> Gentoo) one of the distros with the biggest TeX userbase.
>

If bandwith is an issue (i.e. if you're on a slow connection), modular  
builds are important. If you have a need for religious service and are  
convinced locusts and floods will ensue if you install something  
without using the official (TM) authentic (TM) package manager of your  
distribution, by all means, choose your distribution very carefully.  
But if these points aren't important to you, please just use the  
TeXLive installer on ANY linux distribution and install. TeXLive now  
has a wonderful tlmgr program which will help you keep up to date;  
this will probably be much faster than any packaging system (with the  
possible exception of Debian, unless Norbert is stuck in the mountains  
without internet access...) SuSE 10.X used to have a habit of setting  
certain environment variables (such as $TEXINPUTS) without bothering  
to tell the user about it; I think this is no longer the case in 11.0.  
I really didn't mean to say that the problems you reported a while ago  
were connected to your linux distribution. The most important piece of  
advice I can give: please please please install just one TeX system  
and STICK WITH IT. Either TeXLive or the TeX system offered by your  
distribution or the ConTeXt minimals - but not all of them; that would  
be fine for an advanced user but needlessly confusing for a beginner.

Thomas
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[NTG-context] Breaking/Hyphenating

2008-09-15 Thread Mohamed Bana
1.  What must I do to the 3rd paragraph on the first page to get it to space
properly? It's far too close to the previous one.

1st page, 3rd paragraph; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or 
http://filebin.ca/dnoqva. Here's a screenshot; 
http://imagebin.ca/view/5Es-dHG.html

Source; http://pastebin.com/f15e49b5e

2.  On the 1st page the d in "praised" protrudes to the margin, how do I stop
this. I should point out that this happens often, and I don't mind if TeX
creates a page with 1-2 lines as long as nothing protudes into the margin.



thanks
Mohamed

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[NTG-context] Hyphenating hyperlinks

2008-09-15 Thread Mohamed Bana
Why aren't the the urls broken across the lines on page2-3. I'm pretty sure the
hyperref package in latex supported this, Am I missing an option somewhere?

Screenshot; http://imagebin.ca/view/VHwQ0w.html.

The code used is; \dorecurse{6}{Download Apache at \from[apache]}
Full source; http://pastebin.com/m1cf28c3c
Pdf; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or http://filebin.ca/dnoqva.

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[NTG-context] Mkiv hyperlink problem

2008-09-15 Thread Mohamed Bana
Could someone please try this out;

1.  This source file; http://pastebin.com/m4dd31559 doesn't work with mkiv, it
fails with; http://pastebin.com/ma9705be (paste below).
2.  I don't get an error when I compile with mkii.  Here's the log of the
succesfull compile; http://pastebin.com/m2c98019d.  

%%% Error %%%
(test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.18 14:00 MKIV  fmt: 2008.9.10  int: english/english

language   : language en is active
system : cont-new loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua: used config path - C:/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua: used cache path -
C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2fea56f92e5267d7cc9662e4d5f52e1e
) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system : cont-old loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading: Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading: Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex))
bodyfont   : 12pt rm is loaded
specials   : tex loaded
system : test.top loaded
(test.top
specials   : loading definition file tpd
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials   : loading definition file fdf
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv))
specials   : fdf loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.mkiv))
specials   : fdf loaded
) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/page-run.tex
loading: Context Page Macros / Runtime Macros
)
color  : mpcmyk color space is supported
color  : mpspot color space is supported
color  : system rgb is global activated
color  : system hex is loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/colo-hex.tex
system (LUATEX) : [line 14] 
)
interaction: active
(test.tuo) (test.tuo
references : duplicate reference [][fig:project2] on page 1 (test)
)
systems: begin file test at line 57
chapter: 1 flower Flower
(test.tuo)
section: 1.1 section1
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/zapf.tex)
floatblocks: 1 placed
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/zapf.tex)
Overfull \hbox (3.9333pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1--81
\*12ptrmtfrm*: cin-ated by their PC's tricks, and think that a widely [] praised

\hbox(8.448+2.448)x298.93465, glue set - 1.0, direction TLT
.\*12ptrmtfrm*: c
.\*12ptrmtfrm*: i
.\*12ptrmtfrm*: n
.\discretionary
..\*12ptrmtfrm*: -
.\*12ptrmtfrm*: a
.etc.

floatblocks: 2 placed
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/sample/zapf.tex)
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\hbox(8.448+2.448)x298.93465, glue set - 1.0, direction TLT
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.\*12ptrmtfrm*: i
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.\discretionary
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.\*12ptrmtfrm*: a
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fonts  : resetting map file list
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{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
fonts  : using map file: lm-math
{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}
fonts  : using map file: lm-rm
{C:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-ams-base
{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
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{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
fonts  : using map file: original-public-lm
{C:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
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[NTG-context] mkii colour problem

2008-09-15 Thread Mohamed Bana
Hi everbody,

1.  Blank links source; http://pastebin.com/m4dd31559, Doesn't work, but
strangely enough "color=urlcolour" (the one below) does.  Log;
http://pastebin.com/m1034c274
2.  Colour links source; http://pastebin.com/m70fa91b6.  Log;
http://pastebin.com/m16be2374

Just compile the and you'll see for yourself.

So if I do use "ucolour", the links are shown in black.  I can't compile the
file with mkiv, see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/44025.

pdf using urlcolour; 
pdf using ucolour; 
 
% This results in black hyperlinks.
\definecolor[ucolour]   [c=0,m=0.83,y=1,k=0.7]
\definecolor[urlcolour] [c=0,m=0.51,y=1,k=0]

\setupinteraction[
state=start,
color=ucolour,
option=bookmark]




Mohamed

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Re: [NTG-context] Needless empty page at end

2008-09-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Holzminister
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is there nobody who knows something about this?

This is normal in doublesided documents.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] nolist still gives textellipsis???

2008-09-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I remember Henning was fighting with this quite a while ... but
> eventually this was solved, wasn't it?
> Shouldn't the following give NO textellipsis in the TOC:

\setuplanguage[de][limittext=]

\mainlanguage[de]

> \starttext
>

%\setuplist[chapter][limittext={}]

> \completecontent
>
> \chapter{aaa\nolist{bbb}ccc}
>
> \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Breaking/Hyphenating

2008-09-15 Thread Jano Kula
Hi!

Mohamed Bana wrote:
> 1.  What must I do to the 3rd paragraph on the first page to get it to space
> properly? It's far too close to the previous one.
> 
> 1st page, 3rd paragraph; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or 
> http://filebin.ca/dnoqva. Here's a screenshot; 
> http://imagebin.ca/view/5Es-dHG.html
> 
> Source; http://pastebin.com/f15e49b5e

Works nicely here with
luaTeX-0.28.0
ConTeXt 2008.09.10 14:01

\setuplayout[grid=yes] might help also.

> 2.  On the 1st page the d in "praised" protrudes to the margin, how do I stop
> this. I should point out that this happens often, and I don't mind if TeX
> creates a page with 1-2 lines as long as nothing protudes into the margin.

Regular Overfull hbox. TeX doesn't know how to break the world (line). 
Whatch log file or set \overfullrule=10pt. Usually you could tell TeX 
where to break the world with "\-" but in this example it seems compound 
words (||) aren't supposed to be broken at all.



Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenating hyperlinks

2008-09-15 Thread Jano Kula
Mohamed Bana wrote:
> Why aren't the the urls broken across the lines on page2-3. I'm pretty sure 
> the
> hyperref package in latex supported this, Am I missing an option somewhere?
> 
> Screenshot; http://imagebin.ca/view/VHwQ0w.html.
> 
> The code used is; \dorecurse{6}{Download Apache at \from[apache]}
> Full source; http://pastebin.com/m1cf28c3c
> Pdf; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or http://filebin.ca/dnoqva.

Here, TeX can't break the paragraph according to the strict paragraph 
layout settings, urls are broken, but they still form "Overfull hbox". 
(And there is no space after urls.)

\setuptolerance[tolerant]

will help.


Jano

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