Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + BibTeX problem

2008-12-01 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 1.  Using \completepublications[criterium=all] produces the error message;

Because there is no bbl file, as Jean said. You should run bibtex
'by hand' in mkiv, but I'll upload a mkiv-aware version of the bib
module later today.

 2.  Compiling with the following using \completepublications and 
 \subsubject{Top trading procedures} or \subsection{Top trading procedures};
 
 Why?

Same reason as under 1.


 3.  Taco, could you please include a minimal example of using bibtex in 
 your bibmod-doc.pdf file please, much like what Guilherme has done. 

Is that the biblatex guy?

 4.  Why is the [criterium=all] parameter needed?

Because the default is to create local bibliography list (just like
local toc's ). This may have been the wrong decision, but it is too
late to change now, I fear.

Best wishes,
Taco


___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + BibTeX problem

2008-12-01 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 01 décembre à 09:06:20 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| Because there is no bbl file, as Jean said. You should run bibtex
| 'by hand' in mkiv, but I'll upload a mkiv-aware version of the bib
| module later today.

Strange! My experience is that texexec with «%engine=luatex» on top of the
file creates the bbl file, so mkiv seems to be able to work with bibtex
already.

cheers,
-- 
Jean
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 While testing Norbert's latest Debian packages, I ran across the
 following font problem with the recent ConTeXt minimals.

 The following test file:

 = cut here =
 \usetypescript[palatino][ec]
 \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math] [euler] [euler] [rscale=1.03]
 \setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt]

 \starttext
 $\equiv$
 \stoptext
 = cut here =

 fails with:

  !pdfTeX error: pdftex (file cmsy10.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for 
 readi
 ng
  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

 Among the many map files that are read in, only original-public-lm.map
 mentions cmsy10.pfb, and it contains this mapping:

 cmsy10CMSY10   cmsy10.pfb

 Since cmsy10.pfb isn't in the minimals, I tried to fake it by symlinking
 to the texlive fonts and running mktexlsr, but that didn't work.  The
 ls-R database contained cmsy10.pfb, but kpsewhich cmsy10.pfb wouldn't
 find it.

Hello Sanjoy,

we somehow deliberately decided not to put any cmr files into
distribution, but if some of them are needed, it would make sense to
fix that.

 Another workaround that I tried was to add this line

 \pdfmapfile{+pdftex.map}

 to the start of the test file.  But that trick only produced errors
 about duplicated fontmap entries.

That's the trick that we used to be able *not to include* the cmr
files. It's used by pdftex format and declared cmsy10 to be:

cmsy10   LMMathSymbols10-Regular   enclmmathsy ReEncodeFont
lm-mathsy.enc  lmsy10.pfb

But I guess that the problem lies somewhere else. I'm almost sure that
the virtual font in Euler calls for cmsy10.pfb in which case you
cannot trick TeX with map files pointing to some other font.

 I'm using Debian GNU/Linux i386, context minimals 2008.11.10 w/ MKII.

 I tested it with the 2008.10.31 minimals but found the same problem.  I
 can also test it with other versions.  Is there a list of available
 dates to feed the --context=.MM.DD switch?

See:
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/
(though Hans just implemented a way to fetch that list and list the
available modules, so this could be used to list available versions as
well. Not included yet.)

I deleted older distributions since there was a critical lack of space
on the garden. But this would not solve your problem. It lies in
distribution, not in ConTeXt itself.

I would suggest you to put cmsy10.pfb to texmf-local/fonts/... in
order to solve your problem right away. But for the general solution
... any ideas? I can still include CM Type1 fonts if really needed ...
it's just that noone has complained so far.

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt + BibTeX problem

2008-12-01 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 Le 01 décembre à 09:06:20 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:
 
 | Because there is no bbl file, as Jean said. You should run bibtex
 | 'by hand' in mkiv, but I'll upload a mkiv-aware version of the bib
 | module later today.
 
 Strange! My experience is that texexec with «%engine=luatex» on top of the
 file creates the bbl file, so mkiv seems to be able to work with bibtex
 already.

texexec does, context doesn't (yet). I have uploaded a patched
version of the bib module that runs bibtex internally in mkiv mode.

  http://modules.contextgarden.net/bib

Best wishes,
Taco
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 cmsy10   LMMathSymbols10-Regular   enclmmathsy ReEncodeFont
 lm-mathsy.enc  lmsy10.pfb
 
 But I guess that the problem lies somewhere else. I'm almost sure that
 the virtual font in Euler calls for cmsy10.pfb in which case you
 cannot trick TeX with map files pointing to some other font.

The vf calls for the cmsy10 tfm. That name is then passed through the
font mapping machinery, so the trick above should have worked.

The fact that the name cmsy10.pfb is discovered means that there
is a mapfile line for cmsy10 CMSY10 cmsy10.pfb in one of the map
files (original-public-lm?)

Best wishes,
Taco


___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] looking for equivalence to LaTeX algorithm package

2008-12-01 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zhaopeng Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to describe algorithm procedures in similar way as
 LaTeX algorithmic and algorithm packages? I tried to search it on wiki but
 found nothing. Thanks.

\starttext

\setuplines[space=yes]

\startlines
$sum \leftarrow 0$
\bold{for} $i \leftarrow 1,n$ \bold{do}
$sum \leftarrow sum + i$
\bold{end for}
\stoplines

\stoptext

Wolfgang
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] [Fwd: PV126: typographic programming course info (fwd)]

2008-12-01 Thread Yue Wang
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yue Wang wrote:
 Great. will the courses be recorded and posted on web?

 not that i know; so you have to be there in person -)


well, I wish I could, but it's too far away...
And I think all the context fans are looking forward to attend that
lecture --- so, if we can record it, then everyone will benefit (just
like the MIT's 6.001 courses) ^_^

 Hans


 -
   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
   Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
  | www.pragma-pod.nl
 -
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
 Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] looking for equivalence to LaTeX algorithm package

2008-12-01 Thread Zhaopeng Xing
Thank you, Walfgang. I will try. It is a good exercise.

2008/12/1 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zhaopeng Xing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone know how to describe algorithm procedures in similar way as
  LaTeX algorithmic and algorithm packages? I tried to search it on wiki
 but
  found nothing. Thanks.

 \starttext

 \setuplines[space=yes]

 \startlines
 $sum \leftarrow 0$
 \bold{for} $i \leftarrow 1,n$ \bold{do}
$sum \leftarrow sum + i$
 \bold{end for}
 \stoplines

 \stoptext

 Wolfgang

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
 the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net

 ___




-- 
Zhaopeng XING

Tinbergen Institute
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] The rules of Chinese breaking lines don't work

2008-12-01 Thread Yue Wang
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Yue Wang wrote:

 no, it's a bug of ConTeXt. Hans had already fixed that.

 (Context version hasn't changed, but the font-ini.mkiv changed in
 the TRUNK.
 with the new font-ini.mkiv from Hans, the problem is solved.
 remember: ConTeXt version is only the number defined in context.tex
 file.
 If other files are changed, the ConTeXt version remains the same)


 Ah OK, thanks for the pointer! You're right, it works now. By TRUNK,
 you mean the alpha version that Hans posted yesterday?

no. I mean the minimals repository.
the alpha version of ConTeXt is not in the repo yet.
yesterday, the repo only update two files (mtxrun and font-ini.mkiv).
and the version number is still 2008.11.10


 Thomas
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
 Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 cmsy10   LMMathSymbols10-Regular   enclmmathsy ReEncodeFont
 lm-mathsy.enc  lmsy10.pfb

 But I guess that the problem lies somewhere else. I'm almost sure that
 the virtual font in Euler calls for cmsy10.pfb in which case you
 cannot trick TeX with map files pointing to some other font.

 The vf calls for the cmsy10 tfm. That name is then passed through the
 font mapping machinery, so the trick above should have worked.

 The fact that the name cmsy10.pfb is discovered means that there
 is a mapfile line for cmsy10 CMSY10 cmsy10.pfb in one of the map
 files (original-public-lm?)

Hello,

Taco, thanks for the remark (and sorry for my stupid thinking - there
are too many ConTeXt files lying around on my machine).

I'm attaching a fixed original-public-lm.map.

Hans, can you please have a look and possibly include the file in next
version if it seems ok (I added some more really minor fixes)?

Mojca


original-public-lm.map
Description: Binary data
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


[NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access  
Times New Roman using the script

\usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
\definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default] 
[encoding=ec]
\definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
\setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence,  
my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is  
this the way to access it?

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

Alan 
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file , hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

Hello Alan,

Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

This works:
% possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[times][ec]
\setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
copyrighted).

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Hi, Mojca!

Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin  
Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult  
the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is  
apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

Again, thanks for your help.

Alan

On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,  
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Yue Wang
Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 Again, thanks for your help.

 Alan

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / 
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
 Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me)
do not notice the difference at all.

Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too
difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the
math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
That is good to know, I will use it in talking with the publisher.  
Many thanks.

Alan

On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;28,08 , Yue Wang wrote:

 Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).
 Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.
 Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 Again, thanks for your help.

 Alan

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 09;04,49 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 I am running the ConTeXt Minimals of 11/10 and am trying to access
 Times New Roman using the script

 \usetypescript [timesnewroman][ec]
 \definetypeface[timesnewroman][rm][serif][timesnewroman][default]
 [encoding=ec]
 \definebodyfont[9pt,11pt][rm][default]
 \setupbodyfont[timesnewroman,rm,11pt]

 I am not sure what I getting and I am puzzled by the log file ,
 hence,
 my question: Is  Times New Roman distributed with the minimals  
 and is
 this the way to access it?

 Hello Alan,

 Do you need something-like-times or Times New Roman?

 This works:
 % possibly \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
 \usetypescript[times][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[times,12pt]

 It will give you times-like typeface (TeX Gyre Termes), but not  
 Times
 New Roman. Times New Roman is not distributied (and possibly
 copyrighted).

 Mojca
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / 
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / 
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Peter

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Yue Wang wrote:

 Termes is a TeX Gyre version of Times Roman (almost the same glyphs).

Which stems from URW Nimbus, a clone of Linotype version of Times Roman.

 Times New Roman is a Microsoft version of Times Roman.

Actually, TNR is the Monotype version of the typeface, licensed by  
Microsoft, but with widths adjusted to match Times Roman, which was a  
Linotype typeface. To make matters more fun, Apple licensed its  
version from Linotype. And for cosmic revenge, Monotype bought  
Linotype, so there's just one company now.

 Times New Roman is more illegible than Times Roman.

The only design differences are minimal. The serifs of C and S, for  
example, are more vertical in the Monotype version, and the italic z  
is more calligraphic in the Linotype version, but in large part, the  
two versions are identical. Personally, for book text, I think you  
ought to use Times Ten, which is designed for that. Both Times Roman  
and Times New Roman were originally designed as newspapers typefaces  
to be set on very short measures and are therefore too narrow for book  
use.

Steve
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


[NTG-context] Important: ConTeXt Minimals and --delete/--keep switch

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello,

This is a rather important notice for users of ConTeXt minimals. You
might want to add --keep to ./first-setup.sh

There are some options for which I'm not sure if they should be
enabled by default or not.
The script (mtx-update.lua and consequently the simplistic
./first-setup.sh script) provides two switches:
--keep and --delete.
The --delete switch deletes all the files that are not part of
distribution. The --keep switch doesn't care about those files (that
have been remove from distribution or that you added) and leaves them
where they are.

Your own files should go to texmf-local that update doesn't touch at all.

Now the important info: if you want your files to be kept, you should
use the --keep switch in ./first-setup.sh. --delete has been
misfunctional for a while, and maybe it should not be kept as the
default option. But as it stands now, it is the default.

Recently there has been a new option added
(--extras=list,of,context,modules), but I would like the option to be
renamed to something more self-explanatory than --extras= (--modules=
for example). You can test if fetching modules works OK, but I would
like to rename the option.

Mojca

(Maybe we should add --cvs-exclude rule to rsync to prevent deleting
kpathsea files and formats.)
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The fact that the name cmsy10.pfb is discovered means that there
 is a mapfile line for cmsy10 CMSY10 cmsy10.pfb in one of the map
 files (original-public-lm?)

Right, in my message I had also suspected the same file:

  Among the many map files that are read in, only original-public-lm.map
  mentions cmsy10.pfb, and it contains this mapping:

  cmsy10CMSY10   cmsy10.pfb


Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm attaching a fixed original-public-lm.map.

I just tested with this fixed file, and my small test file compiles
fine.  

However, the longer file from which it came (100+-page math textbook)
fails because it cannot find cmex10.pfb.  I'll do some more debugging on
the longer file to make a minimal (sorry) test.

-Sanjoy

`Until lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always
 glorify the hunters.'  --African Proverb
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] [Context] Important: ConTeXt Minimals and --delete/--keep switch

2008-12-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 (Maybe we should add --cvs-exclude rule to rsync to prevent deleting
 kpathsea files and formats.)

hm, but formats are regenerated anyway so why bother

Hans

-
   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
   Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
  | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-12-01 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/27/2008 3:57 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
 Lars Huttar wrote:
 something like this:

  switch to a serif style

 (if that's what \rm means in ConTeXt -- I still don't know for sure).
 
 \rm in ConTeXT means: switch to the internal style group named rm
 (and likewise for \ss - ss etc.)
 
 Whether rm points to a group of fonts that actually have serifs
 attached to the glyph shapes depends totally on the specific typescript
 that is being used in the document (usually they will, and I think all
 the predefined typescripts are set up that way, but that is not a
 requirement at all).
 
 The basic idea is that the style rm switches to the font set used
 for the main portion of the text. ss is the style for supporting
 texts, like section heads and headers/footers. tt is useful for
 fixed-width text, (this gets it own special group because it is very
 often needed in manuals). hw, and cg are variations for different
 forms of supporting texts, these are rarely used.
 
 Does it make more sense now?
 

Thank you, that helps a lot. I understand now that \rm is more abstract
than I'd initially thought... more powerful but also harder to predict.
Nevertheless useful generalizations can be made (as you showed) that are
helpful in learning the system.

I think it would be worthwhile to explain that in the manual you are
writing (if it doesn't already... sorry, I'm on a tight deadline now and
can't recheck!)... that the style rm switches to the font set used for
the main portion of the text, which typically is a serif font. I think
it would also be helpful to note that this switch does not (normally?)
affect italicization, because some TeX-world users will be coming in
with wrong expectations regarding rm and italics.

Best wishes,
Lars
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Times New Roman

2008-12-01 Thread Alan Bowen
Fantastic, Wolfgang! An image is worth 1000 words.

Many thanks for the visual support.

Alan
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12;38,41 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 times.pdf
 Am 01.12.2008 um 16:13 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
 Hi, Mojca!

 Thanks for the clarification. I had thought that I was getting Latin
 Modern instead but wanted to be sure.

 Termes  sounds like a good alternative to me, but I had best consult
 the publisher, since he originally specified Times New Roman. It is
 apaprently no longer a typesetting problem.

 It definitely makes sense to ask him, but most people (including me)
 do not notice the difference at all.

 You could try to find the differences in my example.

 Even if you need exactly Times New Roman, it should not be too
 difficult to change, but you can ask the publisher where to get the
 math glyphs in case he insists :) :) :)

 ???

 Wolfgang

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an  
 entry to the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___

___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] [Context] Important: ConTeXt Minimals and --delete/--keep switch

2008-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 (Maybe we should add --cvs-exclude rule to rsync to prevent deleting
 kpathsea files and formats.)

 hm, but formats are regenerated anyway so why bother

It depends on user. Format generation takes quite some time. When
there is no ConTeXt version or binary update, I usually don't
regenerate formats at all. (There can be a module update or no update
at all, so I have --make switched off.)

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm attaching a fixed original-public-lm.map.

After testing that file, I emailed that:

1. this new .map file fixed the small test file, but 
2. the larger test file did not work (couldn't find cmex10.pfb).

#1 is true, but #2 was my error: I hadn't copied the fixed .map file to
the subdirectory with the large test file.  Once I did so, it compiled
fine.

So, I think you are right that there's no need for the minimals to
contain the cm* fonts; the new .map file points pdftex to available
replacements.

Thanks for the fix,

-Sanjoy

`Until lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always
 glorify the hunters.'  --African Proverb
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] minimals: cannot find cmsy10.pfb

2008-12-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

 Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm attaching a fixed original-public-lm.map.

 After testing that file, I emailed that:

 1. this new .map file fixed the small test file, but
 2. the larger test file did not work (couldn't find cmex10.pfb).

 #1 is true, but #2 was my error: I hadn't copied the fixed .map file to
 the subdirectory with the large test file.  Once I did so, it compiled
 fine.

 So, I think you are right that there's no need for the minimals to
 contain the cm* fonts; the new .map file points pdftex to available
 replacements.

 Thanks for the fix,

I can confirm that the fix is working. I had a project using Euler and so 
far I had simply copied all the CM pfb files from texlive in my working 
directory. With the new lm.map file, I do not need any CM pfb file. 
However, the CM tfm files are still read (and they are part of the 
minimals).

Mojca, thanks a lot for the fix.

Aditya
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] looking for equivalence to LaTeX algorithm package

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Rascher-Friesenhausen

Zhaopeng Xing schrieb:

Hi,

Does anyone know how to describe algorithm procedures in similar way 
as LaTeX algorithmic and algorithm packages? I tried to search it on 
wiki but found nothing. Thanks.


--
Zhaopeng XING

Tinbergen Institute


___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___
  

Hello,

I once tried to copy the LaTeX environment to ConTeXt. And this is, what 
came out of it: *t-algorithmic.tex* It works for me, but i'm open to new 
and better implementations...


richard rascher-friesenhausen

--

==
Dr. Richard Rascher-Friesenhausen
Hochschule Bremerhaven, Studiengang Medizintechnik
An der Karlstadt 8
27568 Bremerhaven

und

MeVis Research GmbH
Universitaetsallee 29
D-28359 Bremen

Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 16222
Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www  : http://www.mevis-research.de/, http://www.hs-bremerhaven.de/
fon  : +49 - 421 - 218 7707 (mevis)
fax  : +49 - 421 - 218 4236 (mevis)
==

% output=pdf
%===
% begin of file *t-algorithmic.tex*
%===
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (c) 2003, 2004, 2005

%D \module
%D   [   file=algorithmic.tex,
%Dversion=2005.02.12,
%D  title=Environments for algorithms,
%D author=richard rascher friesenhausen,
%D   date=\currentdate,
%D  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

%D algorithmic defs
\definefloat[algorithm][algorithms]
\setupfloat[algorithm][location=middle]
\setuplabeltext[de][algorithm={Algorithmus\,}]

\define[1]\Algorithm{%
\startframedtext[frame=off,%leftframe=on,%bottomframe=on,
 framecolor=darkyellow,
 background=screen,offset=none]
%  \setuplinenumbering[location=intext]
%  \startlinenumbering 
#1 
%  \stoplinenumbering
\stopframedtext
}

%D names
\def\algorithmicend{{\bf end}}
\def\algorithmicif{{\bf if}}
\def\algorithmicthen{{\bf then}}
\def\algorithmicelse{{\bf else}}
\def\algorithmicelseif{\algorithmicelse\algorithmicif}
\def\algorithmicendif{\algorithmicend{\bf.}\algorithmicif}

\def\algorithmicfor{{\bf for}}
\def\algorithmicendfor{\algorithmicend{\bf.}\algorithmicfor}
\def\algorithmicforall{{\bf for all}}
\def\algorithmicdo{{\bf do}}

\def\algorithmicwhile{{\bf while}}
\def\algorithmicendwhile{\algorithmicend{\bf.}\algorithmicwhile}

\def\algorithmicrepeat{{\bf repeat}}
\def\algorithmicuntil{{\bf until}}

%D macros
\newdimen\algorithmicindent \algorithmicindent=0cm
\newdimen\algorithmicskip   \algorithmicskip=.5cm
\newcount\algorithmicline   \algorithmicline=0
\def\startIF{\advance\algorithmicindent by  \algorithmicskip}
\def\stopIF {\advance\algorithmicindent by -\algorithmicskip}

\let\startFOR=\startIF
\let\stopFOR =\stopIF

\let\startWHILE=\startIF
\let\stopWHILE =\stopIF

\let\startREPEAT=\startIF
\let\stopREPEAT =\stopIF

\def\algorithmiclineintro{%
  \inframed[width=.5cm,frame=off,offset=none,
background=color,backgroundcolor=darkyellow]
{\strut\hfill\color[black]{\the\algorithmicline}\,}\quad
  \hskip\algorithmicindent%
}
%D if then elseif else endif
\def\IF#1{%
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
\algorithmicif\ #1\ \algorithmicthen
  }\par
  \startIF
}
\def\ENDIF{%
  \stopIF
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
%  \the\algorithmicline\ \hskip\algorithmicindent%
\algorithmicendif
  }\par
}
\def\ELSE{%
  \stopIF
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
%  \the\algorithmicline\ \hskip\algorithmicindent%
\algorithmicelse
  }\par
  \startIF
}

\def\ELSEIF#1{%
  \stopIF
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro  
\algorithmicelseif\ #1\ \algorithmicthen
  }\par
  \startIF
}

%D for forall do endfor
\def\FOR#1{%
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
\algorithmicfor\ #1\ \algorithmicdo
  }\par
  \startFOR
}
\def\FORALL#1{%
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
\algorithmicforall\ #1\ \algorithmicdo
  }\par
  \startFOR
}
\def\ENDFOR{%
  \stopFOR
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \hbox{%
\algorithmiclineintro
\algorithmicendfor
  }\par
}

%D while do endwhile
\def\WHILE#1{%
  \advance\algorithmicline by 1
  \the\algorithmicline\